A Scientific Approach to the Paranormal and Finding Your Truth

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Hi, DeeAnne. Nice to be with you.

Oh, I'm so happy to be with you too. And, you know, we're gonna stick with kind of our typical flow of the sessions by starting off with learning a bit about your story. So I would love the audience to get to know you a little bit in terms of your path. How did you get to where you are now? How did you get to be this man who's so full of this wisdom? Can you share with us a little bit of the story?

Oh, so first of all, I'm gonna show in a nutshell, right? I mean, I bet you there's a bunch of some stories in there, too. But I find this so I

mean, I can talk, you know, I can give you a narrative, a longer narrative, but that's the essence of it. You know, I've lived an unusual, you know, in that I've never married and I, as far as I know, I don't have children. And I was told when I was 19, again, by the astrologer that I should do everything I was going to do by 40. What that what that translated into was just leaving the world of gainful employment, and just exploring life, you know, from the perspective of someone who has a lot of time and not high material needs.

Ah, I want to speak to this, because I think right now, with what's happening in the world, you can probably agree that there's just so much attachment to security and our jobs and to doing things the way everyone else is doing them, because it's the safe path, or the sub path that we've been told is the right path.

And I agree with, yes, I would agree with that, you know, I didn't start off to be super unconventional, I was raised kind of conventional and my, I'm somewhat conservative socially, you know, I'm very grounded in 3d. And, you know, I don't, I don't live in lala land. And, you know, I haven't descended into overuse, or actually, any use, you know, pharmaceuticals, it's been more about using my rational mind to figure everything out. And if I have any wisdom at all, it's because I've had, I've had a lot of willingness to just explore, to better understand myself. As you know, I may not have liked some of the things that I learned about what it means to be human and what I experienced in past lifetimes. But it also helped give me a much greater understanding and a more empathic and compassionate understanding of what it means to be a person, a human being.

I love I love that you're sharing this with us, because I do believe that there is an invitation, a really big invitation for the world, for the world to become the seekers of truth, for us, as individuals to deepen our connection with ourselves, to also deepen our relationship with our three dimensional selves. And I want to speak to that because you talk that you mentioned 3d a few times. So for those listening, you know, when we talk about the third dimension, we live in the third dimension. But there is there are numerous other dimensions of frequency as well. And so what happens when people are going through this kind of awakening process and willing, you can add to this however you wish, but when we're going through this awakening process, what happens is, there oftentimes seems to be some rejection of the 3d, like, oh, and I had a moment this morning, I was on my bike this morning. And I was having I was like, why am I here? Right? You know, I was kind of feeling that 3d kind of feeling. And there's a tendency as we evolve, as we become spiritually enlightened, for us to reject the 3d. But in fact, we're not being asked to reject that, as we evolve, we're being asked to embrace it. And so, William, what have you been able to do to allow yourself to stay grounded and not get wrapped up into lala land? Because that's where a lot of people seem to get lost as well. You know, in this process, what are some of the things that you do to anchor into the 3d to honor the 3d, but also continue this advancement into these other dimensional vibrations?

Well, the most important thing is to recognize that everyone here is here as a volunteer. You all meet we all we all come in with a soul plan. And there's a gentleman actually, who has made this his career to help people understand better their soul plant. I found out about it spontaneously when I had a between lives regression, because I too, was trying to figure out what am I doing here? You know, what is my purpose? How can I actuate it? And I learned a number of things, one of which is we're all here as volunteers. No one is forced to come to earth. It is a voluntary expedition headed is a school. So if you can adopt the mindset of being a student, you're here or to learn things. And you're here to teach things. You know, in other words, it goes around in a circle. And the two Cappy divorce. Some people might be playing the role more of student at the moment, or teacher, but ultimately, we're all playing both those roles in my opinion. Yeah. And so we attract people into our lives, with whom we have karma to balance, and I stopped punishment is just balancing. Right? So

feels like punishment, sometimes it feels

there's no doctors, no, no doubt about your recognize it's a school, you have to learn your lessons. So there's lessons you learned consciously, and there's lessons unconsciously. And I prefer my learning to be as conscious as possible. I don't like stubbing my toe. Yes, you know, I stub my toe, and I'm thinking better that I should recognize what's going on. So I began testing this rationally, you know, a number of years ago, and I found that this notion of cause and effect, karma, if you will, Israel, both good, are positively and negatively. And you can test it out, you know, I positively I began buying people lunch spontaneously, when I went out to lunch, when I was working. And the very next week, people began buy me lunch. And it wasn't the same people for whom I bought lunch the previous week, right? So I set it up as a test, you know, and the universe delivered. And I also did, I did something negative, you know, Quasar negative, and I also paid a price. You know, I took something that didn't belong to me, technically. And what happened was, I had to pay up money for something else, unexpectedly after the fact. Of course, karma is real karma is real grace is real to sometimes things happen magically, mysteriously, you know, in ways we cannot predict. And we just accept that as a gift from something or someone beyond ourselves. And I've been fishery of that. So I, as I say, I've come to draw a much bigger circle around life in general, in my life, in particular, being attached to the fact that it's my life, it's my vehicle, but not so attached. Because you know, what, we all quote, die, close quote, we all go home. And we all get to do it again, based on our needs. So it's the most important thing on earth, and the least important thing on earth, at the same time to be in human form.

I, I want to take a minute to just take all of that in, because, first of all, I love this theory that we are volunteers. And I believe that to be true as well that, you know, our souls volunteer to come in and to learn and to teach. So I love that. And even more than that, you know, I love this idea that it's the least important and most important thing at the same time. Because, you know, sometimes, you know, we recognize that we're just as tiny grain of sand, do we, you know, as part of the bigger piece. And then sometimes, you know, we recognize that our thoughts, our energy that we put out has such a massive ripple effect in this collective consciousness, that oh, my gosh, okay, we might be this tiny piece of sound. But you know, it sand does over time to the rocks in the earth? Well, it erodes it right. And so it changes it. And so whether we're the most important or at least important, we know that there is an impact that happens, right, as a result of our just simply being so. And so. So it comes back to this opportunity for us to say, Okay, well, what am I doing with this being a grain of sand or being the most important thing in the world? What am I going to do with that? So, William, tell me a little bit more about this journeys of discovering because you're tuned in to like the astral projection world and to, you know, remote viewing, can you share with the audience what that is, so that they can wrap their head around it?

Yeah. Yeah, you can I so I love this idea of remote viewing. So essentially, what is happening is that people are tuning in beyond the five senses, and they're able to see another point of the world or the universe somewhere else, they can bring themselves elsewhere. Can they also bring themselves back in time?

Yeah, apparently, time is a human concept. And this is fully under their second spin, you know, spin you an incredible tale. I've got a technical background, and they leave me wondering, ah, it's, it's mind boggling. You know, I believe that there is a past because that's what I relate to as a 3d human being. And there's a future that is yet is yet unknown. But I can tell you that people have predicted things for me that have come true to almost, you know, to the week to the month of the year, it's been that accurate sometimes. And I know that I've lived before because I have direct memory. And I've investigated three past lifetimes. So this whole notion of time. Now, I suppose it can be all take be all be taking place at once, you know, simultaneously, but from my limited understanding, there's a past or the present and there's a future you and remote viewing can theoretically go anywhere because you're tapping in to the Akashic records what Carl Gustaf Jung, called the collective unconscious, which is just a record of everything, every thought, every action, every word spoken in the universe, it's all recorded somewhere. Using your conscious mind, you can get your subconscious to tap into that glean information and then report it out. And that's, you know, that theoretically, is how it works. That's the theoretical construct.

That's right. Yes. And you're right about the Akashic which is the area that I specialize in, you know, they say there's no space and time within the space of the cache, but in our human understanding, there is past, present and future so I love that you brought that that up as well. So remote viewing, is it the same as astral projection? Is there a difference between those two

You know, what's so brilliant about this conversation, especially because you have such a background, and you've been doing extensive research in this area for quite some time. So you've made connections with the scientists and with the military, and all of these people that, you know, we typically perceive as having this knowledge or this stature, right. And I think for some people, we need that in our mind, right? Our ego mind needs that to say, there's validity here, right? Otherwise, we listen. And we think, Well, who is this crazy person talking about UFOs and, you know, astral projection. But really, we know that there's some method to the madness here, because there is science behind this. And there is some deeper understanding to the woowoo world. And so what this brings up is, okay, that's great that we're getting this, this insight in this knowledge. But there's also this opportunity for us to recognize the power of our inner technology. And what you're telling me right now is that our inner technology is powerful beyond what we can even imagine.

Honestly, consciously, right. And that's the thing, right? Oftentimes, we're just not conscious about what we have readily available to us, because we've been told that it's available to us. So, you know, I love that you asked the question as well. You know, what do I need to do to have a fulfilled life? And what do I need to do to fulfill the lives of others as well, recognizing that it's your own fulfillment that will help others to be fulfilled? Of course,

Well, you know, I'll say that I become a more giving person was wasn't like that I, I wouldn't call myself a bad person in the sense that I was doing bad things to people. But I wasn't as willing to put myself out for people as I am now. And why? Because I learned that people have given to me, surprisingly. And I can recount story after story, where someone has showed up, as if by an angel to help me through a difficult passage into, you know, whether it was handing me $1 that I needed, you know, to cover the cost of groceries, or I had a leak in my sailboat. And a friend of mine came over and knew exactly what to do, and took care of it. And it wasn't it wasn't just flipping a switch. I mean, it took, you know, a day and a half's worth of labor, but he took care of it. Just because, yeah, you know, at around minded me how I can do the same thing. Yeah, and that way, you know, everything builds in in a in a positive feedback way. And the more you give, the more you receive, it goes around in a circle. That's right. I had no one that theoretically, mentally, but I got a heart experience of it by having people come into my life, unbidden, unexpected, who helped me get through a tough spot. So that's my command that to people just show up for people. You know, you don't you don't have to set up a nonprofit, or make it a career. But if you can help another person, in the moment, do it, do it. Yeah. And that way you send out an emanation and it builds.

It does, it builds momentum. I think that's a wonderful piece of advice out there. It's just that reminder, and, you know, we've, we've all heard of pay it forward and all of those things, but, you know, there's multiple ways in which we win when we courageously and generously give. And that can mean something as simple as taking a minute to hold the door open. We don't know the impact of what that has. It doesn't like you said, you don't have to start some big non for profit, you know, it could be in the simple, meaningful gestures that we do for one another. And I think it's a wonderful way to live each day and trying to be that bright light for other people. So that to me is, you know, a big part of our mission here is to be those bright lights for other people. So, I want to ask you, as we kind of come to a close today, you know, you had the ability to retire early, you had great success in your career, but you retired early so that you could ultimately take the time to explore and to research and to play in this beautiful space of awe and wonder. What can you suggest to people that feel like they don't have the time or the space? What are what are some of the things that they might want to consider in changing so that they can, you know, continue to explore and nurture themselves? Is there anything that you would suggest for someone who's like, so stuck in their career? And they're like, I don't, I can't let this go. Because I got my family or they think they can't let it go. Yeah, I know that there's more, is there anything that you can suggest to those people?

Well, I think everyone has to take some quiet time and sit down and figure out what they really most want. You know, for me, I wanted wisdom and knowledge, and I wanted freedom and independence. And I basically got it, you know, I, I haven't had a perfect life in many respects. But my main priorities have been satisfied, you know, I have the time and the energy and the money to go explore, and acquire knowledge and wisdom. And so I will lead this life and more evolved person, right, I'm not expecting any award, I'm just expecting that this life was productive of me healing when I came in to heal, because my last lifetime was very gruesome, you know, and I actually took my own life out of guilt and shame. When it came to that awareness, it propelled me to actually do the work, to heal myself and to learn to love myself, and more and better than I had had before. Because, you know, to look at me, I look like just everyone else, but you never know what's going on inside another person, unless you spend time to get to know them, or you use other means, you know, I use other means as well as talk to them. I would advise people to sit down and make product make a priority list what's most important to you can be honest with yourself, and take time to feel it not just think I say that as a very left brained person, you know, I'm a thinker by nature, but you have to tap into a deeper source to find out what is really motivating you. And then orient your life to the best of your ability, you can't give up your marriage, you can't give up your children. And oftentimes, you can't give up your career. But you can perhaps not take the promotion because you want more time. You know, you can say that once the kids are growing, or I'm not going to have another child, I'm going to be happy with one or two. Yeah, and and they're going to have the courage to make a shift in my lifestyle, in my life choices so that I can have more of what I say I want, ya know, a one level as you know, we become slave toward slaves to our choices, I get it. I do. On the other hand, frankly, every day is a new day. And you have an option to choose New, or at least begin to make changes, small changes that enable you to have more of what you say you want time wise. If you want to spend your money in a new direction, whatever. Well, I mean, your choice, you have choice, everyone's got choice. You know, even there's very few people that are totally imprisoned. There are people that are totally imprisoned, you know, they have physical issues, you know, that limit them to kick it out of a wheelchair, for example, or they're literally in a prison. But most of us are not in that situation, we can figure out a small window of opportunity to begin to explore something new.

Because oftentimes what happens is we create a prison within our mind, right? We you know, and so many of us live in prisoned, though, you know, we might not physically be, I really appreciate that you ask the question, what do I really want? And so that's the invitation to our audience today. What do you really want? And, you know, William said, this is about being honest about what you want, you know, we think what we want is this promotion, or this accolade, or this achievement, and I was an overachiever my whole life. So it was always about the next thing and the next achieving and the next achieving will none of that made me happy. None of that fulfilled me. Because I had lost the connection with myself and I wasn't being honest with myself about what I truly wanted. Yes. And so I read that really resonated for me because I had to get really honest when I left my husband and become a single mom, I had to be really honest with myself, when I chose not to go back to work and kept building a business even though it was hard. That was also getting really honest with myself. So that is the invitation for those of you listening. And as William was talking, he mentioned, you know, you know, write it down but don't just think it, feel it. And this is one of the secrets to manifestation. We cannot just think oh, I want that brand new vehicle or I want this money or this house or whatever it is that we want extrinsic of us. The opportunity is for us to be at the vibrational frequency in which that already exists. Yes, yes. And so that is what Williams talking about is you have to feel it, you have to be in the vibrational frequency in which that money that house, whatever it is that you want that relationship exists. And as soon as we doubt that as soon as we don't trust that all is, you know, there and available to us, then guess what happens, we sink our vibration. And then we wonder why we can't get the thing we want? Well, because we need to have such deep faith and trust that everything is being supplied for us. And we'll even touched on it as well with that karmic experience and what our soul needs to learn and all of that. But it even goes deeper than that. It goes back to recognizing that creator or God again, Gus, whatever you call higher spirit. Everything that we need to fulfill our divine destiny is supplied for us. And so as being that William has needed for his divine destiny, for him to be a truth seeker, and to be a teacher, for all of us, everything that he is needed for that path has been supplied to him. So let that soak in for you. And remind you that if you are being honest with yourself, if you are choosing your most divine path, that you've got everything covered, everything's already there for you, just a matter of you coming into that energy of receiving. So William, I know you can relate to all of that, I wanted to just summarize that so that people could capture all of the goodness, any final words that you want to share with our audience today?

Well, I think it's important that people develop the capacity to be quiet in themselves. Meditation is recommended. But even if you have a hard time quiet in your mind, everyone can go for a walk in the park for half an hour, go find yourself a park bench in alkane, a very, very natural setting a seashore Park, whatever, close your eyes, and just listen, you know, give yourself five minutes and just listen and see what bubbles up. You know, your spouse is not going to go away, your job isn't going to go away, your kids aren't going to go away, but you can put them aside for just a small period of time. I'd also frankly recommend that everyone find a good astrologer to cast a natal chart, so that you have a roadmap for what your life is about, you may already know it. But to have someone who doesn't know you from Adam or Eve tell you it blind is very compelling. When you recognize that the mandala of your chart is a divine imprint that is given to you as guidance. You know, I've done astrology charts for people who are Christians, and Orthodox people who don't believe in any of this stuff. It's all about information, you can read it and reject it. Or you can say this is information that I can use to help my life become better. And that's all it is. That for me was a lifesaver.

I love that piece too. Because I also had an astrology reading blueprint, if you will done many years ago, and it still stays with me. Because it really inspired me it really led me down this path of conviction, I think about living the divine path. And so it was a beautiful catalyst for me. So, William, what do you have to offer? What? How can people reach you? What are the next steps if you know they felt resonate with you as well today? Can you share with us that?

Well, if people are interested in learning about some of my you know more, shall we say distinctive paranormal experiences, I created a blog to style all of my writing, I decided to commit these things to paper just so I had cleaned out my mind and put together all the information that had come to me, you know, through various means and mechanisms. So I have that called soulnammo.com. It's a riff on a gun magazine in the United States called guns and ammo. Ammo refers to the 3d and soul everything beyond the trans soul. Oh, yes, well, soulnammo.com is my blog site. If you want to bypass the political stuff, just get to the paranormal stuff. Go all the way to the right hand side and go down. I have things siloed in in paranormalcy, geopolitics and life musings. So just click on the paranormal see and that will go to all the paranormal experiences that I've had. Wow, you'll there's three past lifetimes that I you know, have direct information on and very compelling information, you know, multiple sources corroborating it, and then I know that no one dies because I've had direct after death communication that was validated. And like all I can say, frankly, is that if anyone is mourning someone who's past, just get quiet when you put your head down at night, mentioned their name three times and listen, and you will, you may very well be very surprised at what you hear back has high was when it came to me. And I've since communicated with my mother particularly, and she's been gone from the earth plan for 35 years. Wow. And she's given me guidance that proved to be correct. an hour in the future. Two years in the future and different periods of time in between. I'm not kidding. Well, it's so real. You know, as I say, We're temporary sojourners here, home is where we go to when we quote, die, close quote. There's no such thing, we return a call. And then we get to do it again if we want or somewhere else, right. In other words, as bad as things are, take heart, frankly, that you're having an experience in life that I'm not, I'm not negating anyone's tribulations. I'm simply saying that there's a bigger picture that you can access while you're still here.

Ah, amen to accessing the bigger picture everybody,

and honor people like the Antillean doe. All right, who has a gift, which he shares very, very well. And it's well worth the time and the money.

Thank you, William. I so appreciate that. I have loved this conversation. I feel like we can talk for hours and hours on end. So we'll have to plan for for rendezvous together. So we can talk all things UFO astral projection, all that good stuff. But this has been a lot of fun. And I hope that it is Pete some of our audience members interest for them to continue their journey to be more curious. And to get really honest with themselves. What do you want in this life? What do you really truly want

and the courage, to have the courage to choose consciously

and the courage to choose consciously? Absolutely. What a joy. Thank you so much, William. It's been a pleasure. Everybody listening, thank you again, for continuing to tune in. We love being able to share information, it fills my heart and it also brings such joy to the people that we have as guests and our listeners. So thank you so much for tuning in. We really appreciate you. And until next time.

Blessings to everyone.

And yes, blessings. Blessings to you all. Until next time on when Spirit calls bye for now.

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