In this episode, Jeri’s journey through loss, anxiety, and a dark night of the soul led her to discover the healing power of self-love and Ho’oponopono. She shares how forgiveness, presence, and compassion transformed her health, relationships, and life, reminding us all that love is the ultimate healer.
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About the Guest:
Jeri Tourand, B.Ed, is a Self-Love and Relationship Coach, retreat leader, Soul Connection Guide, Trilotherapy Practitioner and Sensei. Known as “The Love Mentor” and “Dark Night of the Soul Doula,” she guides change-makers and visionaries to release limiting patterns, integrate shadow and light, and awaken to their truest essence. Through retreats, programs, and private coaching, Jeri empowers people to deepen self-love, lead from the heart, and live in harmony with themselves, others, and the universe, creating ripples of transformation worldwide.
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Rev. DeeAnne ‘Rose Hope’ Riendeau B.Msc, HADM, PIDP, NLP is a thought leader in spiritual and business development whose mission is to elevate how we think and live. Experiencing a life of chronic illness, and 2 near death experiences, DeeAnne rebounded with 20 years of health education and a diverse health career.
She is known as the modern day Willy Wonka for giving away her company Your Holistic Earth, which is the first holistic health care system of its kind. She is currently the owner of Rose Hope International, in which she helps those who are seeking more joy, love, freedom, and a deeper meaning in life using your souls library also known as the Akashic Records.
She has spoken at Harvard University, appeared on Shaw TV, Global Television, and CTV and has been recognized as a visionary and business leader having been nominated for numerous awards including Alberta Business of Distinction. Along with being an entrepreneur, DeeAnne is a mom of 2 bright kids, publisher, popular speaker and international bestselling author who uses her heart and her head to guide others to create their best life.
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Rev. Rose Hope: This is when Spirit calls and you on your
Speaker:journey, are in the right place. This show is about magic,
Speaker:miracles and meaning shared through stories, interviews and
Speaker:channeled messages. We have so much to share about who you are
Speaker:and your divine mission here on the earth. Let's get to it when
Speaker:Spirit calls is right now.
Speaker:Our special guest on the show today is Jeri Tourand. Jeri is a
Speaker:self love and relationship coach, empowering visionary
Speaker:souls to bridge Heaven and Earth by embodying their authentic
Speaker:selves. A former school teacher and radio show host, she is now
Speaker:a dedicated Zen trilotherapy practitioner, integrating
Speaker:transformative modalities like ho pono, pono and mindfulness to
Speaker:love and inner freedom. Since:Speaker:retreats and workshops, guiding deep truth and self love,
Speaker:helping clients release emotions, trust life's flow and
Speaker:live fully through Zen, travel therapy and unconditional love.
Speaker:Retreats, Jeri invites participants to experience
Speaker:heaven on earth. Her mission inspire you to embrace your
Speaker:divine essence, express your potential and live a life of
Speaker:love, vitality and freedom. Hey, hey everybody. I am so excited
Speaker:about our guests today. I mean, as you know, I'm always excited
Speaker:about our guests because we bring in the most magical,
Speaker:special people. And it is no surprise that we have Jerry here
Speaker:today, because she's one of the most magical people that I know,
Speaker:and I've had the privilege of knowing Jeri personally now for
Speaker:it's been a decade. Can you believe it? So I have had the
Speaker:privilege of watching this woman support people, help people,
Speaker:share her heart with the world, and so I'm thrilled that she
Speaker:agreed to come on the podcast today. Thank you, Jeri.
Jeri Tourand:Thank you Deanne. I am so happy to be here, and
Jeri Tourand:you always speak to my heart, and you've you've definitely
Jeri Tourand:been a part of my journey, even when you didn't even realize how
Jeri Tourand:much I was watching you.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: And the feeling is mutual. Is that so beautiful?
Jeri Tourand:It's like we often don't realize the light we shine on the world.
Jeri Tourand:And so you know, with that being said, you know you have had a
Jeri Tourand:powerful life with some really significant turning points that
Jeri Tourand:have allowed you to get to this beautiful place of being a love
Jeri Tourand:mentor and a love guide for people. So I would love our
Jeri Tourand:audience to hear that story for you. What was it that catalyzed
Jeri Tourand:this journey and allowed you to step into this divine path?
Jeri Tourand:Would you start us off with that?
Jeri Tourand:Yeah, absolutely. It has been a journey, that's
Jeri Tourand:for sure, and I feel like I'm revisiting so much of it again,
Jeri Tourand:like anew. So, yeah, it's very alive in me. And some people
Jeri Tourand:have kind of referred to me as a dark night of the soul doula,
Jeri Tourand:just because I, you know, I have been through some really rough
Jeri Tourand:times, and I remember when I really had no idea who I was, my
Jeri Tourand:my journey. I mean, it's kind of been my whole life, since my
Jeri Tourand:childhood, I always felt like people should just love each
Jeri Tourand:other, like, how can they just not see what's possible here?
Jeri Tourand:And how can people be so mean to one another and how, you know,
Jeri Tourand:and as a school teacher, bullying was always really one
Jeri Tourand:of my, I guess my biggest triggers, wow, is not really
Jeri Tourand:understanding how kids could be so mean, and where does this
Jeri Tourand:come from, and then Starting with those questions, starting
Jeri Tourand:on this whole journey recognizing, you know, that we
Jeri Tourand:really just don't love ourselves, and recognizing that
Jeri Tourand:I was included in that, that I really didn't have any idea how
Jeri Tourand:to love myself, what that even looked like. I thought it was
Jeri Tourand:all about self care, you know, I eat well, I exercise, I'm kind
Jeri Tourand:. And after my father died in:Jeri Tourand:illness, I really did start to question everything, and I
Jeri Tourand:started to ask all the deeper questions, why am I here? What
Jeri Tourand:is life all about? Who am I? Careful what you wish for. You
Jeri Tourand:know that started me on on an amazing personal development
Jeri Tourand:journey to find Jerry. Know what? Who is this? What is this,
Jeri Tourand:really? And. I had already recognized that I fell into the
Jeri Tourand:people pleasing category, not really living for myself, but
Jeri Tourand:doing what I thought I had to do in order to survive, in order to
Jeri Tourand:be loved and lovable and all the things. So then I dove into
Jeri Tourand:taking courses and listening to they weren't podcasts back then,
Jeri Tourand:they were teleseminars, like every single day, just traveling
Jeri Tourand:all over North America, going to various retreats, personal
Jeri Tourand:development workshops. And that rattled to the surface
Jeri Tourand:everything that wasn't true about me. Wow, it's actually
Jeri Tourand:quite devastating, because it was just like a whole
Jeri Tourand:dismantling, a whole unraveling of everything I always believed,
Jeri Tourand:wow. And it actually started this dark night of the soul era.
Jeri Tourand:So:Jeri Tourand:my marriage, my parenting, like everything, my chosen career,
Jeri Tourand:where it just felt like nothing was really me, and I was
Jeri Tourand:questioning whether any of it was aligned, wow. And I ended up
Jeri Tourand:having a full blown anxiety attack where I felt like I was
Jeri Tourand:dying of a heart attack. I couldn't breathe. I had chest
Jeri Tourand:pain. My face went numb, my limbs went numb, my legs went
Jeri Tourand:numb, and I was in and out of the hospital for a couple of
Jeri Tourand:years, having episodes these attacks. I had to quit teaching
Jeri Tourand:because I could barely get out of bed. Wow. I was so scared. I
Jeri Tourand:thought I was gonna die, and I was so worried that my three
Jeri Tourand:daughters were gonna find me dead in the morning because of
Jeri Tourand:the crushing chest pain, the numbness, I didn't know what was
Jeri Tourand:going on, and I wasn't fully convinced that it was an anxiety
Jeri Tourand:panic attack, as the doctors had said, but I was willing to
Jeri Tourand:entertain the idea that it was okay. And I tried everything. I
Jeri Tourand:went to the traditional doctors and naturopathic doctors, a
Jeri Tourand:chiropractic that, I mean, I was juicing non stop. I was painting
Jeri Tourand:my feet with iodine. I, you know, I, and I'd already
Jeri Tourand:identified that there was some sort of autoimmune something
Jeri Tourand:going on here, yeah. And then, ultimately, yeah, I mean, some
Jeri Tourand:doctor said, Okay, you're positive for lupus, mitral valve
Jeri Tourand:prolapse that I had, like, my heart valve got really weak, and
Jeri Tourand:they said it was minor mitral valve prolapse. But I thought,
Jeri Tourand:wow, there's the ultimate not listening to my heart, yeah, and
Jeri Tourand:then my thyroid and I went down to under 100 pounds and like, so
Jeri Tourand:it was very physical, mental, emotional. So I thought, okay,
Jeri Tourand:all of it, yeah, this is like a total breakdown, and nothing
Jeri Tourand:that I was trying was working. Kind of start to question, okay,
Jeri Tourand:so what am I looking for here? I'm obviously attached to you
Jeri Tourand:some kind of a result. Ah, you know, it's not working. It's not
Jeri Tourand:working to get rid of, to change, to fix this part of me
Jeri Tourand:that I'm judging is bad. It's wrong. It shouldn't be here. I
Jeri Tourand:shouldn't be like this. I must have done something wrong. Like
Jeri Tourand:and then I started to hear that voice and how judgy it was, wow,
Jeri Tourand:and how critical it was and recognized, this is not what
Jeri Tourand:love would say.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: This is not what love would say, yeah.
Jeri Tourand:And then the voice continue just, you know, because
Jeri Tourand:I've, I got to this point of surrender where I finally just,
Jeri Tourand:I remember just kneeling down and sitting in the shower and
Jeri Tourand:just letting the water beat down on me and crying and saying,
Jeri Tourand:like, I can't do this. I can't do this anymore, like take me or
Jeri Tourand:heal me or help me, because I can't see what I can't see. Wow.
Jeri Tourand:Don't know what I don't know. I don't know what else to do, what
Jeri Tourand:else to try? And the answer was just that I received is you have
Jeri Tourand:to love yourself. Wow, it already kind of identified, but
Jeri Tourand:then I was pissed off, because I'm like, right? I'm doing
Jeri Tourand:everything right, like,
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: I'm doing all things.
Jeri Tourand:Yeah, and that I remembered the whole pono, pono
Jeri Tourand:mantra that I, you know, read about and used a little bit. So
Jeri Tourand:the first thing I did was forgive myself for not knowing
Jeri Tourand:how to love myself. And I'd already recognized that what I
Jeri Tourand:was saying to myself, that there was something wrong with me, was
Jeri Tourand:not helping. I. Right? You know, I need to fix this. I need to
Jeri Tourand:change this. And so I decided that I was going to continue
Jeri Tourand:using this whole pono, pono, remembering a course in Miracle
Jeri Tourand:says it's either love or cry for love. Whatever it is is love or
Jeri Tourand:cry for love. So I'm like for love, this numbness, these
Jeri Tourand:aches, these pains, the heart palpitations, this is all a cry
Jeri Tourand:for love. Whoa. And what am I meeting
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: it with resentment, way, frustration,
Jeri Tourand:anger, all the things, right?
Jeri Tourand:Just reinforcing that it's not good enough. It
Jeri Tourand:shouldn't be here, you know, pushing those parts of me away.
Jeri Tourand:And no wonder I was so split. Wow, yeah. And then I started to
Jeri Tourand:and then I got just those, those deep truths, just like, You know
Jeri Tourand:what? You resist, persist, yeah. I'm like, Yeah, I've been
Jeri Tourand:resisting these parts of me. I've been by judging them. And
Jeri Tourand:then I that was a huge light bulb moment where I realized
Jeri Tourand:that judgment is a form of resistance, yes, and what you
Jeri Tourand:resist persists. So I was like, I'm judging it. I'm trying to
Jeri Tourand:fix it, I'm trying to change it. I'm trying to get rid of instead
Jeri Tourand:of welcoming, these parts of me, No wonder I'm not healing, or
Jeri Tourand:whatever I perceived healing to be at the time, which is
Jeri Tourand:completely different now. And so instead of judging, I decided,
Jeri Tourand:what's the opposite? What's the opposite of judging? It's
Jeri Tourand:welcoming. So then I used the whole pono, pono mantra. For all
Jeri Tourand:those different parts of me that were crying for my attention,
Jeri Tourand:wow. And then ultimately, it just boiled down into I'm here.
Jeri Tourand:I love you. I'm listening, wow. So I would meet the heart
Jeri Tourand:palpitations that way. I would meet the fear, the frustration,
Jeri Tourand:the impatience. I'm here for you. You're allowed to be
Jeri Tourand:impatient. You're allowed to be frustrated. I love you. I'm
Jeri Tourand:listening. I love you more. Sometimes I'd ask, wow. And
Jeri Tourand:every night, that was my routine. So it became this self
Jeri Tourand:love ritual, wow, every single night to just do a body scan.
Jeri Tourand:And, yeah, yeah, welcome it all. And then I one day, I noticed,
Jeri Tourand:geez, I haven't had any attacks. I haven't been to the hospital
Jeri Tourand:for a while, and I don't know when the turning point was,
Jeri Tourand:like, it just, you know, it just shifted, yeah, and then within
Jeri Tourand:like, a year, I didn't have any symptoms. Wow. I felt amazing,
Jeri Tourand:and I and so I know that that self love ritual, very being
Jeri Tourand:very committed to myself and to prioritizing myself and
Jeri Tourand:everything that was showing up outside of me, you know, like
Jeri Tourand:people don't prioritize me. I don't matter to anyone. I'm not
Jeri Tourand:good enough, right? That was all, all those beliefs that were
Jeri Tourand:actually causing the external experience of that, right,
Jeri Tourand:reinforcing my beliefs, right? I really do believe that, you
Jeri Tourand:know, our beliefs are out pictured in front of us, and you
Jeri Tourand:know that we're, we're inadvertently the cause of our
Jeri Tourand:experience, right, in our reality, which is a beautiful
Jeri Tourand:gift, yes, because otherwise we wouldn't even see what our
Jeri Tourand:blocks are and what those beliefs are that are, you know,
Jeri Tourand:blocking us from really being the love that we are expressing
Jeri Tourand:it, really Opening to it. And that really did become my
Jeri Tourand:purpose. Wow, was always kind of in me thinking like, Why can't
Jeri Tourand:people just love each other? But then that that split, thank God
Jeri Tourand:for it. Yeah, because I developed the tools that I know
Jeri Tourand:work self love and forgiveness. So first I became a self love
Jeri Tourand:and forgiveness coach, because that's what, what worked to
Jeri Tourand:integrate, that was the those parts Yeah, and heal that rift
Jeri Tourand:between my head and my heart, this, this self judgment,
Jeri Tourand:judging myself and not, not prioritizing myself, yeah? And,
Jeri Tourand:you know, all these things that cause this big split, and where
Jeri Tourand:I didn't trust myself, I kept I had so much self doubt, so we're
Jeri Tourand:seeking outside myself all your time, right? And then so
Jeri Tourand:frustrated and pissed off that it's not working. Yeah, nobody
Jeri Tourand:else does have your answers, Jeri.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: you have the answer.
Jeri Tourand:gee, who are you? Right? There's a reason that
Jeri Tourand:Guru is spelled that way.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: Oh, my God, I love that. Yes. Oh, Jerry,
Jeri Tourand:there's so much about your story that I want to talk about. The
Jeri Tourand:first that I want to highlight, because to me, this is such a
Jeri Tourand:potent realization. Is that everything that happens either
Jeri Tourand:comes from love or a cry for love. And I love that you
Jeri Tourand:brought that up from A Course in Miracles, because I think a lot
Jeri Tourand:of times it's very easy for us to see somebody showing up in a
Jeri Tourand:way and being like, what are they doing? How could they be
Jeri Tourand:so? Mean, how could they be this or that? But if we understand it
Jeri Tourand:from the position that that's a cry for love. Oh, boy, does that
Jeri Tourand:ever allow us to step in to support that? So that's the
Jeri Tourand:first thing. The next piece you spoke about was this whole idea
Jeri Tourand:of this like self love ritual and HO pono pono. And I want to
Jeri Tourand:make sure our audience knows what ho pono pono is, and what
Jeri Tourand:your self love ritual was, because I have a feeling that a
Jeri Tourand:lot of people are like, Well, what does it look like to love
Jeri Tourand:myself? Like, what does that even mean? And you said, you
Jeri Tourand:know, I'm eating healthy, I'm exercising, I'm showing my body.
Jeri Tourand:I love it, but yet rejecting these parts of yourself, and I
Jeri Tourand:think that's a big problem for most of us, you know, we love
Jeri Tourand:the juicy, alive, good pieces, and then some of the shadow
Jeri Tourand:pieces of us were like, oh, you know, pushing those away, and
Jeri Tourand:that causes, even on a cellular level, this battle that ensues,
Jeri Tourand:and your body was fighting for your attention, that cry for
Jeri Tourand:help. So would you share with us a little bit about the whole
Jeri Tourand:pono? Pono and your self love ritual?
Jeri Tourand:I love Ho’oponoponoo. It absolutely
Jeri Tourand:changed my life. And so that, you know, it's a Hawaiian
Jeri Tourand:forgiveness mantra process to return us to our original form,
Jeri Tourand:which is love, yeah. And so the four phrases are, I'm sorry,
Jeri Tourand:please forgive me. Thank you. I love you. Those phrases, it's a
Jeri Tourand:frequency, it's a vibration. And some people take it a little bit
Jeri Tourand:too literally, like, I'm sorry. I'm saying I'm sorry to the
Jeri Tourand:perpetrator. Like, but it's not that, like, maybe it's, you
Jeri Tourand:know, I'm sorry for for hating you, for wanting bad things to
Jeri Tourand:happen to you. Like, that isn't who I am. So it's really
Jeri Tourand:returning to that original form, that original self, just like,
Jeri Tourand:you know, the story of Michelangelo and the David, you
Jeri Tourand:know, chipping away at all the blocks until the David revealed
Jeri Tourand:itself. It was already there, right? This love you already are
Jeri Tourand:that already there? Yeah. So, like Rumi says, It's not about,
Jeri Tourand:you know, finding love. It's like seeking for the blocks and
Jeri Tourand:releasing the blocks to the love that you already are. So what is
Jeri Tourand:preventing you from freely expressing being and receiving
Jeri Tourand:this love that's already infinitely present? It's already
Jeri Tourand:here. We just are all blocked up, all these protectors and all
Jeri Tourand:the safety, augmented beliefs,
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: all the stuff, yeah,
Jeri Tourand:totally, it's a whole Ho’oponopono is the is the
Jeri Tourand:one that chips away at that beautiful and just, you know,
Jeri Tourand:I'm sorry for believing that I should be different than I am.
Jeri Tourand:Ah, right. I forgive myself for believing that my mother should
Jeri Tourand:have been different than she was and my father. I forgive myself
Jeri Tourand:for believing that life should be different than it is. Ah,
Jeri Tourand:right? And so there's your resisting. You know, we suffer
Jeri Tourand:in direct proportion to how much we resist, what is
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: yes we let me say that again, we suffer in
Jeri Tourand:direct proportion in resisting, what is
Jeri Tourand:yeah to how much we resist, what is and so what
Jeri Tourand:if we could just welcome what it and the foundation is trust,
Jeri Tourand:right? Trusting that really the universe does have your back,
Jeri Tourand:that the source that I know, Gus, right, what you call it,
Jeri Tourand:God with your sword, you know, really is always supporting you.
Jeri Tourand:It's to grow and evolve and to become more of who you already
Jeri Tourand:are by helping you identify. What are those blocks? What are
Jeri Tourand:those belief systems that are holding you hostage, like we're
Jeri Tourand:holding ourselves hostage we are, and then when we start to
Jeri Tourand:just, you know, acknowledge it, welcome it, apologize to our
Jeri Tourand:inner child for holding on to this hatred, this anger, this
Jeri Tourand:for being mean to ourselves, and, you know, projecting it
Jeri Tourand:onto others, and you know, all this crazy that happens that
Jeri Tourand:isn't even crazy, because it's we were a child when it first
Jeri Tourand:started. So we're innocent and so. Really, you know going back
Jeri Tourand:and embracing your innocence, that we really did the best we
Jeri Tourand:could what we knew, so did our parents and men apologizing.
Jeri Tourand:Geez, I'm so sorry for carrying this for so long, for hurting
Jeri Tourand:myself with this. So we're really, we're not if we're
Jeri Tourand:someone hurt us and did something that wasn't loving
Jeri Tourand:toward us, and we say, I'm sorry, please forgive me. No,
Jeri Tourand:I'm sorry for hating you. I'm sorry to my inner child for
Jeri Tourand:carrying this vibration of anger and hatred that prevented me
Jeri Tourand:from receiving love, that prevented me from moving on. So
Jeri Tourand:it's about freeing yourself to move forward. It's not do they
Jeri Tourand:deserve forgiveness.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: It doesn't really have much to do with
Jeri Tourand:them. The whole pono pono is for you, for us.
Jeri Tourand:I deserve to be free, yeah. And so I started to
Jeri Tourand:slowly release the blocks through a whole Ho’oponopono
Jeri Tourand:meeting those parts of me that were crying for my love and
Jeri Tourand:attention, whether it was mental anguish, emotional anguish, a
Jeri Tourand:physical ailment or pain, and you know, and apologizing for
Jeri Tourand:whatever I might have done or failed to do, or for not seeing
Jeri Tourand:and not arriving for it sooner, and asking for forgiveness and
Jeri Tourand:then having gratitude, like thank you for showing me you
Jeri Tourand:know like that you are that you're suffering, yeah, and for
Jeri Tourand:helping me to learn how to love you more like every single part
Jeri Tourand:of me. Can I love it? Can I welcome it? Can I bring it back
Jeri Tourand:into my heart
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: and have appreciation for it.
Jeri Tourand:Totally, yeah,
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: that's what I love about this methodology. The
Jeri Tourand:thank you is the receiving, the receiving, the wisdom, the
Jeri Tourand:growth, the knowledge, whatever it was in that experience, even
Jeri Tourand:if we don't exactly know what that is yet.
Jeri Tourand:So like, so I that with each of the phrases like,
Jeri Tourand:Okay, I'm sorry. That's like the frequency, the vibration of
Jeri Tourand:compassion, yes, and responsibility, you know. Please
Jeri Tourand:forgive me. It's like taking your power back. Yeah,
Jeri Tourand:accountability and yeah, you know. And then thank you.
Jeri Tourand:Obviously, we all know that gratitude is is huge to
Jeri Tourand:incorporate some sort of a gratitude or appreciation
Jeri Tourand:practice into your self love ritual. And then, then it's also
Jeri Tourand:completion, you know, thank you, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Jeri Tourand:And this is complete, and so it is. And then, of course, love,
Jeri Tourand:right? The highest vibration, this divine, you know,
Jeri Tourand:remembering that we are, that we're not separate than that.
Jeri Tourand:And that really is the healing, right? It's the reuniting with
Jeri Tourand:your truth. So self love is, you know to know thyself is to love
Jeri Tourand:thyself. You already are that, yeah, and so it's actually just
Jeri Tourand:bringing all your parts back into your heart with this
Jeri Tourand:softness, with this compassion and understanding, which is
Jeri Tourand:forgiveness, right? Understanding, how I can
Jeri Tourand:understand how you could be the way that you are given
Jeri Tourand:everything that's happened, how you could get bitter and how you
Jeri Tourand:could carry hatred like, you know, offering some compassion
Jeri Tourand:to those parts and then bringing them into your heart to be
Jeri Tourand:resolved, yeah, and integrated, we come back to this wholeness,
Jeri Tourand:and we start to, you know, recognize that we are, that we
Jeri Tourand:start to experience ourselves as that, as that, oh, that really
Jeri Tourand:is self love, right? Is knowing that you already are, yeah,
Jeri Tourand:love. So it's kind of, you know, I always kind of went from the
Jeri Tourand:top down, a little bit like bringing in that unity
Jeri Tourand:consciousness and connecting with and just unifying, you
Jeri Tourand:know, connect with the trees, connect with whoever's in front
Jeri Tourand:of you. They're the most important person, including you
Jeri Tourand:in the mirror. Yeah, whatever's now. Can we love that can we
Jeri Tourand:welcome that, and can we trust that it's perfect, that
Jeri Tourand:everything is happening perfectly.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: So here's a question for you, because you
Jeri Tourand:talked about trust being fundamental in part of your
Jeri Tourand:process. So your self love ritual was ho pono pono. You did
Jeri Tourand:that consistently, and that started to shift things, because
Jeri Tourand:you started to love yourself more and so really inviting.
Jeri Tourand:Then what if our trust has been so annihilated? Like, what if,
Jeri Tourand:like, everything that has shown up in our life has been, like,
Jeri Tourand:messy and awful, you know, what are some of the things that you
Jeri Tourand:did to anchor into that trust? Like, how did you know you could
Jeri Tourand:trust again, or what were some of the things that you did to
Jeri Tourand:help you to build that trust muscle?
Jeri Tourand:I didn't know that I could try. So it's interesting
Jeri Tourand:because I realized after what the tools actually were that I
Jeri Tourand:was using, because I started out as Ho’oponopono, right? Yeah.
Jeri Tourand:And then I realized, Oh, my God, this is like, it's a practice
Jeri Tourand:of, like, trusting myself. It's a practice of, it's presence
Jeri Tourand:practice. What if my loving presence is the healer? What if
Jeri Tourand:that's all anybody needs, because my presence is Love, and
Jeri Tourand:Love heals. Love is the ultimate solvent and dissolver of all
Jeri Tourand:that is in love. Yes, so me, just what burned my trust back?
Jeri Tourand:Was it consistent? Showing up for myself? Ah, I love this
Jeri Tourand:answer is, how do you develop trust with anyone? Right time,
Jeri Tourand:quality, time in proximity, getting to know them, listening
Jeri Tourand:and so, yeah, it wasn't like I intended to trust is the
Jeri Tourand:foundation I have to learn to trust. Yeah, it was that. It was
Jeri Tourand:like an accidental discovery that spending quality time with
Jeri Tourand:myself, holding space for myself, listening to myself
Jeri Tourand:showing up consistently at the same time every night before I
Jeri Tourand:went to sleep, that that the parts of me that were that
Jeri Tourand:didn't feel safe to go, that I thought were bad and I needed to
Jeri Tourand:get rid of well, but guess what? They let go of you, but only
Jeri Tourand:when they're loved enough. Yeah, because they're your protectors,
Jeri Tourand:right? And so as soon as they like my consistent showing up,
Jeri Tourand:yeah, then they started to let go. They start to recognize,
Jeri Tourand:okay, I can trust you, yeah? So I started to trust myself, Wow,
Jeri Tourand:and to trust that, wow, life really is happening perfectly
Jeri Tourand:for my growth, for my evolution. And so quality time in
Jeri Tourand:relationship with yourself and with source, right meditation,
Jeri Tourand:sitting in stillness, just being present with what is. Then
Jeri Tourand:you're also developing a trusting, loving relationship
Jeri Tourand:with existence, with life. And so if you have difficulty, if
Jeri Tourand:your trust has been rattled, which most of us, you know, it
Jeri Tourand:has. We went through covid, and let me tell you, it's been
Jeri Tourand:pretty hard to trust anything or anyone. No, yeah, all the scams
Jeri Tourand:and all that. So it's one of my, you know, signature workshops is
Jeri Tourand:how to trust yourself. I love different strategies, but really
Jeri Tourand:that's kind of the foundation. It's just like, consistently
Jeri Tourand:show up for yourself and just listen. Just be there. You're
Jeri Tourand:prioritizing yourself, yeah, yeah, and you're in that trust.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: I think this is a brilliant response, because
Jeri Tourand:what happens when we do create the space for ourselves and we
Jeri Tourand:do start to listen is that we actually build our confidence.
Jeri Tourand:We actually discover deeper layers of our truth. I mean, the
Jeri Tourand:list goes on when we hold that container for ourselves and
Jeri Tourand:folks. This doesn't need to be hours long. Like this can be
Jeri Tourand:like five minutes, like that whole pono, pono for Jerry,
Jeri Tourand:probably only took her five or 10 minutes every night, you
Jeri Tourand:know, but she consistently created the space for her to be
Jeri Tourand:with herself in a loving embrace, and that naturally
Jeri Tourand:built the trust, you know. I often say faith precedes
Jeri Tourand:evidence, and so whether you knew it or not, Jerry, you know,
Jeri Tourand:you at least were able enough to lean in and say, Okay, I'm just,
Jeri Tourand:I'm going to just do this thing. Oh, wait, now I'm seeing it's
Jeri Tourand:healing me. Oh, now that's really building the trust. And
Jeri Tourand:now I'm going to keep doing it more, and now I'm going to learn
Jeri Tourand:how to facilitate and teach other people how to do it. So it
Jeri Tourand:brings us into that. And so we're like, so anchored in that,
Jeri Tourand:in that trust. So I love that, and thank you for sharing that.
Jeri Tourand:I want to kind of expand a little bit more as a love mentor
Jeri Tourand:and guide. You know, when you are working with people, what
Jeri Tourand:are some of the fundamental pieces like? Are there any like,
Jeri Tourand:few little golden nuggets that you're like? They just need to
Jeri Tourand:know this, they just need to know this, or they just need to
Jeri Tourand:know this. I mean, I know we've covered a bit of some of the
Jeri Tourand:tools that you use, but I'm curious to know if there's stuff
Jeri Tourand:that comes with a service for you. Of like, if I would have
Jeri Tourand:known that back, then it would have changed everything. What
Jeri Tourand:are those things?
Jeri Tourand:Yeah, yeah. There's so many where,
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: like, two or three Max,
Jeri Tourand:yeah, okay, what we perceive is in the way. That
Jeri Tourand:is the way,
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: yes,
Jeri Tourand:whatever reminder, yeah, yeah, whatever we think is
Jeri Tourand:in the way. Go there, like, and welcome, welcome it and sit with
Jeri Tourand:it. And there's, there's some gold in there for you.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: I love it. Like the obstacles are part of the
Jeri Tourand:path, folks, yeah, so don't be there and are, yeah, right.
Jeri Tourand:Like, most of us are, like, trying to bypass the obstacle,
Jeri Tourand:but it is the. Obstacle that has the golden nugget. I kind of
Jeri Tourand:think about, like, video games when I was a kid, and you'd have
Jeri Tourand:to, like, go over the coins to collect the coins. It's like,
Jeri Tourand:the obstacle is the coin, and you've got to, like, jump on the
Jeri Tourand:coin and get into it in order to receive the value of it. And so
Jeri Tourand:that piece, I think, is so important. Thank you for that.
Jeri Tourand:Yeah, yeah. And then one of my mentors, Derek
Jeri Tourand:rydella, used to say the workshop you've been living is
Jeri Tourand:the one you're meant to be giving. And that comes back over
Jeri Tourand:and over again to me too, because, you know, people say
Jeri Tourand:you find your purpose in your pain and but then people are
Jeri Tourand:locking in pain too. So not necessarily, yeah, but it's so I
Jeri Tourand:really liked more the the workshop that that you've been
Jeri Tourand:living like, what have you overcome? What have you
Jeri Tourand:discovered? And I discovered these tools, and without even
Jeri Tourand:realizing, until many, many years later, that the tools is
Jeri Tourand:an acronym and the foundation, the T is trust, and then the O
Jeri Tourand:is observed. So I learned I started to just like I'd go into
Jeri Tourand:my body and I'd observe the sensations so that I'd know
Jeri Tourand:where to direct my attention. Which is energy, yeah, right,
Jeri Tourand:which is really what was needed, right? Is just a cry for love
Jeri Tourand:and attention. Your attention is your love. It's like it.
Jeri Tourand:Attention energizes, right? Then I became very masterful at just
Jeri Tourand:observing sensations, the constrictions, the where my
Jeri Tourand:energy is flowing freely and where it isn't, yeah, and then
Jeri Tourand:the second Owen tools is open. And so then I would and open to
Jeri Tourand:it that so there's the welcoming, right? So I would
Jeri Tourand:welcome what is welcome. Welcome sadness, welcome guilt, welcome
Jeri Tourand:shame, welcome pain, all the parts what happened, physical,
Jeri Tourand:mental, you know, emotional, so and then open to it. Because
Jeri Tourand:when I was judging it, I was locking it in, that's right. And
Jeri Tourand:so opening to it is like welcoming it, and now it can
Jeri Tourand:move, yeah, and now it can complete and it can let go,
Jeri Tourand:yeah. And so that then I practice with a pen, you know,
Jeri Tourand:practice like observing and opening to this pen,
Jeri Tourand:recognizing, you know, it's made of the same stuff I am. It's all
Jeri Tourand:energy. And then all of a sudden there's this unity where it was
Jeri Tourand:like the separation starts to dissolve between you and a pen
Jeri Tourand:or a tree or a person, or you and yourself, you right? And so
Jeri Tourand:once the separation and you remember, you know that you're
Jeri Tourand:reminded that there is no separation, there is no they,
Jeri Tourand:there is no perpetrator and victim, and things just resolve.
Jeri Tourand:Yeah, right. They dissolve and get resolved as you evolve into
Jeri Tourand:love, as you step into the love that you are. And then so
Jeri Tourand:trusting, observing like trusting that everything is
Jeri Tourand:happening perfectly. This too is life supporting me about
Jeri Tourand:everything, everything that's like my mantra, and then
Jeri Tourand:observing that witness consciousness opening so that
Jeri Tourand:there can be some completion. We don't have everything all locked
Jeri Tourand:up in these judgments and ideas. Now a sudden, we're back to the
Jeri Tourand:space of the space right where healing takes place, the space
Jeri Tourand:of infinite possibility, the space between the notes and
Jeri Tourand:music, the space, right? That that's everything. It's the
Jeri Tourand:biggest part of you, the space in between. And then from there,
Jeri Tourand:the L is love, because it just automatically starts to flow
Jeri Tourand:because you're open. That's it. And love and action is service.
Jeri Tourand:So the S is service in tools, right?
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: Wow, I love that. So you just gave us a full
Jeri Tourand:acronym, trust, observe, open, love and service. Yes, there's
Jeri Tourand:your tools formula everybody for you to take with you and lean
Jeri Tourand:into as part of your self love process, or to apply it to
Jeri Tourand:anything in life. Really couldn't be,
Jeri Tourand:yeah, and that's, you know, it's funny, because it
Jeri Tourand:just keeps in my coaching, like we we always go back to those
Jeri Tourand:tools. I have a whole, you know, six week tools program where we
Jeri Tourand:focus just trust for a week, just observing for a week. The
Jeri Tourand:trial of therapy that I studied with the Zen Buddhist master
Jeri Tourand:really uses all those tools. So it keeps coming back to these
Jeri Tourand:tools that these are the tools to help you to reside in the new
Jeri Tourand:paradigm that is love led, rather than fear based, moving
Jeri Tourand:from ego to soul, moving from fear to love. If you're in a
Jeri Tourand:time of transition, if you're in that liminal space, or my
Jeri Tourand:coaching client today called it
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: purgatory, yeah. So I call that purgatory. Oh,
Jeri Tourand:relationship, Purgatory, work purgatory. There's all sorts of
Jeri Tourand:purgatories we can be in,
Jeri Tourand:you know, let's face it, between then, these are
Jeri Tourand:the tools that will, you know, help you to take that leap, I
Jeri Tourand:guess it is, you know, into what's possible. Yeah? And
Jeri Tourand:remind you that hell like it's it's not that. It's not that far
Jeri Tourand:away. It's actually already here, already here, just losing
Jeri Tourand:the blocks to it and you don't even have it's not even a
Jeri Tourand:release. It's not even like people say, you know, Can you
Jeri Tourand:clear this for me? Can you release this for me? I like it
Jeri Tourand:takes the edge off, yeah? But it's not about clearing it. It's
Jeri Tourand:actually about welcoming it and integrating it, right? Which is,
Jeri Tourand:so we're learning, right? We're learning. We are learning stuff
Jeri Tourand:we've been taught. You know, isn't really the answer, right?
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, you know, it's, it's so great that you're
Jeri Tourand:bringing this topic up because, you know, we I still do
Jeri Tourand:clearings in some of my work, but I'm clearing away the extra
Jeri Tourand:sediment, not the stuff that there's still value in it for
Jeri Tourand:them. And I think that's something we see a lot of though
Jeri Tourand:out there is like, people are like, Oh, I'll get rid of that.
Jeri Tourand:I'll get rid of that. It's like, whoa, whoa, let's stop getting
Jeri Tourand:rid of all the gold, because beneath the pole, or whatever it
Jeri Tourand:is you're perceiving that to be, is the gold. That's the value.
Jeri Tourand:And I wanted to add to this too, because you kept bringing up
Jeri Tourand:space. And when we create space, we heal naturally. It doesn't
Jeri Tourand:require hard work. And I think people have this understanding
Jeri Tourand:that healing is hard work. It's not that's that's not the hard
Jeri Tourand:work, that the hard work is creating the space and being to
Jeri Tourand:sit in the space for any length of time, that's the hard part.
Jeri Tourand:So I just felt like I needed to share that
Jeri Tourand:and that, think that is one of you know, those
Jeri Tourand:nuggets too. They bet you know, because I realized by making
Jeri Tourand:that space for myself and creating that space, and it's
Jeri Tourand:uncomfortable as heck to sit with all the the pain and the
Jeri Tourand:and the the grief, like there's so much grief.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: Oh, so much grief. Yeah,
Jeri Tourand:well, it so, yeah, you have to be willing to be
Jeri Tourand:uncomfortable and and get comfortable being uncomfortable,
Jeri Tourand:because that's a part of the process,
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: part of the mastery too, right? That's part
Jeri Tourand:of our evolution that we're being invited.
Jeri Tourand:Yeah? And one of the realizations for sure, that
Jeri Tourand:I had was, you know, when I was like, Why aren't I healing?
Jeri Tourand:Yeah? Then the answer that came, it's like, well, healing takes
Jeri Tourand:place in your presence, not in your absence. Jerry, you're not
Jeri Tourand:even here, you can't heal in the past. You can't heal the future.
Jeri Tourand:Heal in your busyness. You need to make the space.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah. So can't heal in your head either, right?
Jeri Tourand:Like, it's a, like, the whole meal deal. Oh, yeah.
Jeri Tourand:And so then, all of a sudden, there's also this
Jeri Tourand:mantra that came, like, every you know, every time I make the
Jeri Tourand:space, I get it's like healing. I am the space where healing
Jeri Tourand:takes place. Like the space healing takes place, my presence
Jeri Tourand:is that, ah, like, what if that's all anyone needs needs.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: What if that's all anyone needs?
Jeri Tourand:And here I thought, you know, when I first
Jeri Tourand:started coaching, there was I had to have these tools. I had
Jeri Tourand:to have the answerable things. No, I have to know how to be
Jeri Tourand:present. First, with myself, yeah, number one, base for all
Jeri Tourand:the things that are uncomfortable. And then I can do
Jeri Tourand:that for another. And guess what? It lets go. It starts to
Jeri Tourand:just let go, because there's a safety that we never had just
Jeri Tourand:being formed.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: So there's the trust. That's it. Yeah, building
Jeri Tourand:that again. I love that you said that. What did you say healing
Jeri Tourand:are I'm creating space for healing to take place. I think
Jeri Tourand:that's like a beautiful affirmation that like I am the
Jeri Tourand:presence creating the space for healing to take place.
Jeri Tourand:I am. Let me be the space where healing takes
Jeri Tourand:place.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: Yes, let me There we go. Let me be the space
Jeri Tourand:where healing takes place. I love that, Jerry, you have so
Jeri Tourand:much divine wisdom in you. I had the privilege of attending one
Jeri Tourand:of your master classes with the tools acronym that you shared
Jeri Tourand:today. So I'm so glad you shared it, because it was so impactful
Jeri Tourand:for me, and I know we just skim the surface, but I hope all of
Jeri Tourand:you listening have taken notes or digested some of this, at
Jeri Tourand:least, and you can apply it to your day to day, and at minimum,
Jeri Tourand:I hope you feel the love coming from Jerry and me, because
Jeri Tourand:that's certainly a big piece of how I want to show up in the
Jeri Tourand:world, and I know how Jerry wants to show Up in the world.
Jeri Tourand:So Jerry, if our audience is listening and they're saying,
Jeri Tourand:Oh, can we take part in that tools workshop? Or what have you
Jeri Tourand:got in store? What would you like to share with everyone in
Jeri Tourand:terms of next steps?
Jeri Tourand:Yeah, I absolutely. I mean, I do have
Jeri Tourand:the tools program, the five day, one tool a day, that. Is
Jeri Tourand:available. And I'd say the next step, though, is to just book,
Jeri Tourand:you know, book some time with me, and then we can assess what
Jeri Tourand:the best next step is.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: No fee for this. Jerry's just opening her heart
Jeri Tourand:to all of you, if you resonated with anything Jerry shared. And
Jeri Tourand:I'm telling you, she is one of the most, I would say the most
Jeri Tourand:brilliant facilitators that I know in terms of expressing and
Jeri Tourand:clarity, and I've witnessed that. I've been a student in her
Jeri Tourand:in the Tools workshop, you will not be disappointed. And so I
Jeri Tourand:really want to encourage you to take advantage of that if you
Jeri Tourand:felt some resonance, and that all that contact information, of
Jeri Tourand:course, will be in the show notes for all of you guys, so
Jeri Tourand:that you can explore so complimentary time with Jerry.
Jeri Tourand:Yes, please sign me up, and space is so good. Here's what's
Jeri Tourand:so beautiful about you. Jerry and I recently had an experience
Jeri Tourand:like this. I just want to finish with this story, because it was
Jeri Tourand:really powerful for me. I recently met somebody actually
Jeri Tourand:was Dr, Kevin Preston, I met him in person just a couple weeks
Jeri Tourand:ago, and I did a podcast interview with him. This man
Jeri Tourand:showed up in such love that it reflected back to me the areas
Jeri Tourand:in which I could up the ante on the love for myself. So it was
Jeri Tourand:so brilliant. He didn't do anything particularly other than
Jeri Tourand:show up fully in love with himself, and that unlocked in
Jeri Tourand:me, deeper layers of love for myself. And he's just one
Jeri Tourand:example. You are another one. And so when you get to spend
Jeri Tourand:time with Jerry, as I have, you will unlock new layers of love
Jeri Tourand:for yourself just with her presence. So I wanted to finish
Jeri Tourand:with that. I got goosebumps saying that, and so that's
Jeri Tourand:always my sign that I'm right on track and in speaking truth. So
Jeri Tourand:I hope you can receive that, Jeri, because you unlock layers
Jeri Tourand:of love in me every time I see you on social or we have a
Jeri Tourand:chance to interact. And so it's so powerful. And I think
Jeri Tourand:oftentimes we forget, we forget that just allowing ourselves to
Jeri Tourand:love ourselves has a massive ripple effect, massive ripple
Jeri Tourand:effect. So thank you for loving yourself and helping us to love
Jeri Tourand:ourselves too well.
Jeri Tourand:Thank you, Deanne. I love the way you worded that.
Jeri Tourand:Oh, that was, yeah. I got the chills right along with you.
Jeri Tourand:Yeah. And you are definitely a true speaker. And you, you speak
Jeri Tourand:to my heart, and you open things, and you've, you've
Jeri Tourand:helped me and inspired me so many different ways. I
Jeri Tourand:absolutely love you so much.
Jeri Tourand:Rev. Rose Hope: so much too. So I received that thank you and
Jeri Tourand:for everyone listening, I hope you feel that love like I said,
Jeri Tourand:Thank you for tuning in to another edition of When Spirit
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