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Hello, everyone. Welcome back to another edition of When Spirit calls. And as you've already learned in our bio, we've got a really magical guest here for you today. We've got Jill Knerr here for you. Hi, Jill. I'm so happy to have you with us today. And before we before we started recording, we were actually talking about crystals. And I just love that you brought the crystals up because I just finished a crystal grid workshop. And we had so much fun putting intention around these crystal grids. I had no idea the power that crystals have. And I can I can see you've got some in your background there as well. So yeah, bringing the crystal magic into into today. Even though that's really not the theme of our discussion today. I wanted to bring crystals to the surface because you know, even for me and learning about the crystals, you know, I always found crystals a little bit overwhelming. There's so many different types of crystals, and they all do different things. And I was like racking my brain around crystals. But what they actually what we can do is we can break them down by color. So I didn't know that but amazing teacher, Sam Kerouac, check her out Sam cure at healing, and she teaches all about crystals. So I'm going to plant a little seed for her before we get started. Because I feel like someone listening today needs to hear about the crystals.

I do I do. I need to hear about Sam. So,

Oh my gosh, there you go. So I'm going to make a connection for you and Sam, because she is so passionate about her crystals. Okay, gel, enough about the crystals, let's talk about you. I really want the audience to get to know you. And so would you give us a little backstory into like, you know your path. And maybe Of course, sometimes when spirit directed you in your path a little bit, I'd love to hear.

Oh, I so happy to be here. So happy to share. And the Spirit called me when I met you. So it's it's been a very powerful year for me but backing up. So I grew up in South Carolina, I had a fairly disruptive dysfunctional childhood family, I left home and put myself through college, I was always sort of so busy. Getting Ahead, staying safe making money, you know, I was on the track of being the responsible adults on my own, that I never really paused to say, Am I on a path? Is this bringing me joy? Is it making me happy? It was sort of survival mode. And I married my college sweetheart, we had a child and 18 years into that relationship. I had a surprise divorce. I was 41. You can imagine why it was surprised. And I like to say surprise. And I have to tell you, it was devastating. This was my family. I didn't really have a family of my own outside of his family and the family we've built. And I realized that at that point, I did deal with a lot of things I've been running from and avoiding. Because I was on a pathway I was always doing well. We were in the DC suburbs, we were financially secure all these things. We were showing up and doing the right things, but there was no soul to it. There was no purpose to it. And I have to say after doing some work, that it's fair bit First, there was a lot of fear based and anger based and trauma based and coming through the divorce, which was honestly, when you think you have your darkest time, the biggest loss. And I know there are bigger losses than that. Don't Don't get me wrong, but for me 10 years later, it was the best thing that ever happened to me. Because, yes, it pushed me to make changes.

Yes. And you know, I love I love how you speak about the story. And I love that you call it a surprise divorce, you know, because sometimes we're not expecting these horrible things to happen in our lives, whether it's the loss of a job, or the loss of a loved one, or the loss of a spouse or partner through a divorce. But it's so interesting, because I see so many people that are in this survival mode. And it's based on fear. It's like, I need to go make money. Because if I don't make money, I can't afford my house. And if I can't afford my house, and I'm not being seen as successful, and bla bla bla bla, why'd we go into this really intense path, running as far out there as we possibly can. And this was part of my story, too, Jill, you're not alone in this, you know, because I spent my life being an overachiever. And it wasn't because I had a very traumatized childhood, I actually had a great childhood. But I always felt like because of my near death as a child that I needed to prove my worth to stay here, that if I was given a second chance at life, I had to show up fully. And so in order to do that, that meant working really hard, and then being successful, and then doing all the right things, you know, the right things in quotes, right? And I see that you went on that same path of like, okay, this is what success looks like, this is how we make a life. This is how we're happy. And obviously, you figure it out. That's not it.

It's not and you know, this is the first time this is coming to me. And it's probably due to you that we're having this conversation. My mother passed when she was 42. And my life experience happened right at the same time. And it's really interesting, that when my mother passed, she was so old, you know, to me, so old. And then I got to that age, and I felt so young. And it was so you have these life changes. And I think part of my epiphany and drive was understanding that, wow, she didn't have these next 40 years. Right. And having that connection to age, which can be very hard for women.

Yes.

And I have to say, I was so unhappy in most of my 40s because I was working hard to get ahead of to get out of that negative and unhealthy mindset and life and everything. And now that I turned 50, I'm so happy, I'm so much more fulfilled, I'm living for joy. I'm seeking new things, I I'm doing meditations and crystals and opening myself up to a bigger journey. But I would never be here. If I didn't have like I said, I think losing my mother was a big part of my journey. Obviously, the divorce was a big part of the losses in my life have sort of driven me to open up.

And you know, I want to just sit in that thought because I want to invite our listeners to think about times, and maybe they're going through a time right now where they think the world is ending or it's the worst thing ever. Because when we're going through those experiences, yeah, they suck. And it's hard and we suffer in them. Most certainly, however, I want this to be a reminder for people to say, hey, sometimes the best gifts come in those really dark and suffering times, sometimes the greatest treasures are there. And you know, I talk about the my own experience in really searching outside of myself for that happiness and for that satisfaction in that joy. And as much as we can find a lot of neat things out there. The reality is, is the magic is in here it is inside of each and every one of us. And in fact, Joy is innately given people, you've already got it there, you just got to recognize that it's there. And by doing that, that has been so transformative for me, because I've really dove inside to myself and really learn to love myself. And I think that's where you're at to I really feel like you've come to a place where you love yourself so much that you're willing to allow yourself to move through to heal yourself to do the things that are being asked of you that are going to actually just create this incredible life for you.

I will say it's a constant journey and struggle as far as self love because we all have the stories, the messaging everything we have to overcome but yes, I am so much further and I think a big when we start, we chatted before this, we couldn't help it. But we started talking about the ego and how the ego gets in the way. And just I'm just gonna say the human, the mind, the ego. And I was living off ego for all that time. And then when I opened up and felt like there was a larger connection, initially, after the divorce by I was very codependent with a ex husband, we did everything together all about the daughter all about the family unit. And then I was sort of tossed out alone. And if you've been through a divorce, often friends kind of just go away, because their couple friends and, you know, it just happens. Yeah. And I reconnected with women, friends, and I now have this huge robust network of women, who some of them have been divorced. And I've mentored them through it. Some of them are in business, some of them are just, I mean, I quote unquote, pick up women all the time. I met a woman on a flight recently, and she was doing a PowerPoint, I started talking to her about her business, and now we connected and she's, you know, we'll have coffee and but you know, I just, I cannot talk about how much joy and blessing and power there is in for me connecting with women. And I have not done that before. And I'm talking about the right the women who support women, the women who love other women, this abundance, and, and I think, again, talking to you, in this my therapy session, everyone losing my mother, you know, I just sort of got harder, in my you're talking about the masculine, just being masculine means you're going to survive, being harder means you're going to win. And now that I've gone through this transformation, I enjoy the feminine, and the power of that. And that's what I've been leaning into, and releasing the ego and letting things flow and and understanding this connectivity.

So there's so much there I want to speak to and the first thing I'll talk about is that collective connection with other human beings. And what happens as we continue to evolve is our vibration shifts. So you might notice that as your vibration shifts as you evolve, that people in your life start to fall away, or people in your life start to go on other paths. And it's not because you're doing anything wrong, either. I know a lot of people that have really struggled, especially over COVID, because they, you know, one person believed this, and one person believed that. And they really struggled with that energy of losing friends and family that they thought would be there forever. But the truth is, is that, again, as we all evolve, we are being positioned to be attracting different types of people that are more aligned with who we are. And so people will naturally fall off, or you can choose to create boundaries, and they will phase away as well. But regardless, I want to bring that to the awareness of people, because what was beautiful about what you just shared is that, you know, you felt like you kind of lost your family and a lot of your friends from that experience of being married, but you are shifting into a whole new Jill, you know, and that whole new Jill required a whole new set of tribe or community to come and continue helping Jill to evolve. And so that's what naturally happens out there. And so really want the listeners to hear that. So that if if you are out there and you're struggling, and you're feeling like people are leaving you, it's just making room for the next layer, the next tribe, the next community of people that can meet your vibration. So that's one reminder from there, you also brought up the eagle eyed and this actually comes up so much in conversation around any type of spirituality and listening to the call. Because of course, the logical mind comes in. And I was right there with you. It was all based on ego, I had to make a million dollars, I had to do this, I had to be the best mom, I had to be the best wife, all of that energy. And so many of us are still very much in that space. And this isn't a judgement. It's just normal, because we've been conditioned in this way that that is what success looks like. But there's an opportunity to redefine success for people. And I think that because of the work that you do, and because of your coaching and your building of your community, I think that that energy of success can really be looked at in a whole different way. And that's the invitation or one of the invitations today is to redefine what is success to you not what is success to the greater population. So Jill, what do you think success looks like to you now?

Yeah, amen. Because, you know, I call it filling the soul bank, when we fill the sole bank, the money bank will fill, it will, if you've got the right tools, and you're motivated, and you want to do it, it can be done. And I don't think there's anybody that can't do it, I really do believe that, that you can do it. And how beautiful isn't that we're redefining success in this moment, even of recognizing that. It's more about what what lights me up, what makes my heart sing what fills my heart with joy, and lean into that first, because there is a way and you know, the money will come it will come if you are leaning into that if you're living in alignment, if you're allowing your values to be at the surface there for yourself to it will show up, the money will come. And sometimes for some people, it's fast. For some people, it takes a few more years. But nonetheless, it's there, it's already there for you to tap into. So I love that we're now looking at success as being success is about me filling my cup first. And all this external stuff, the relationships, the the money, that whatever that is that can come secondary. And I think if we lead in that way, then we allow ourselves to really have the winwin in the world and to have true success. Because I want it all I want to have time with my kids. I want to have an abundance of money. I want to do work that I'm passionate and I love so I don't feel like I'm working every day. And let me tell you, I've got it, I do it, I live it. And so I know that anybody can do it. I went from having the million dollar family, the million dollar lifestyle to losing everything. And then starting all over again. Because that first round, like you said, it was all ego, it was all survival. It was all the facade of what I how I needed to show up according to the world standards. And once I got rid of that old limiting belief system, I was then able to step in, and really, really align with my heart. And in doing that, everything else just came right into fruition.

I love it. And I love this whole idea of transformation because we're all capable of it. We're all capable of growing of changing you know, neuroplasticity, whatever you want to call it, spirituality awakening opening. But I will tell you, if when I found out about my divorce, and I will say a good 14 months later, if you had said everything's gonna be great. I was so first I was stuck in a victim, fight or flight. I just couldn't get over the pain and the resentment. And then I grew out of it. And we actually had a very cordial divorce. So we're great co parents, and he's really one of my favorite people. Why he's not my husband. And that's not a bad thing to say he has a wonderful new wife. I have a wonderful new boyfriend. That my daughter's happy, but I didn't see that. And if you had told me then that things are going to be okay people told me all my divorce a mentors told me my senseis I just couldn't see it. And so I want people to hear if you're going through a hard time, you're not going to see it. But believe it just like you're saying, with a with a business with a mindset. It's belief if you can build that belief and if you don't have it, surround yourself. Like I did it first with my female friends with women who will build you up and give you that belief. I see all the time and I actually recently on my Instagram posted this I changed it I wanted to Canva so I can do that. And I see this post all the time. All you need is one I find a dream or a dream and Wi Fi. And I actually took it and I said, let's mix this up. I think I said, let's change this up. All you need is a dream, Wi Fi and belief. And I wrote that because I started thinking it's really what holds us back the most in any area of our lives is our own is our own egos. Our own mind is our own, you know, doubts?

Yeah, I love that you share that to give people permission to kind of be where they're at. Because if we are going through a hard time, or we've, you know, lost a loved one, or whatever that experience might be, it's hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel, you know, and we sometimes feel like we're going to be stuck there forever. One of the things my mom would always say to me, when I was stuck in that dark place of despair was this too shall pass. And that's something I leaned on, I couldn't see what the potential was in that experience at all. But at least I knew that eventually it would pass like, everything passes, everything changes. So we know that at some point, we're not going to feel that way. But in that moment, it feels pretty dark. And it feels pretty suffering, doesn't it. But I love that you brought in this belief, even if you believe that this too shall pass, even that belief in itself is sometimes enough to kind of inch us away. And it's important, I think, to bring up the the topic of spiritual bypassing here, because had you just been like, oh, no, everything's okay. And I'm just going to, you know, I'm going to heal myself. And I'm just going to forget about all this hurt and suffering and the trauma that I'm experiencing, you probably wouldn't be where you are today, either. And so I think there's really something to be said about honoring that hurt that sadness, that darkness, whatever that is, you know, and not get caught up in the blaming ourselves for being in victim mode, either. Because we can be so hard on ourselves, I remember grieving the loss over somebody who I loved. And I kept kind of beating myself up because I'm like, come on down, like get over this person, like they're gone, and you have to just move on. But what I heard in that intuitive space was Dan, you need to honor this, you need to grieve this, you need to hold space for this. And so quick little rule of thumb for people if you are in a place of despair, can you love on that despair? Can you love on that grief? Can you live on that shame? Can you live on that guilt? Whatever it is that showing up the anger, sadness, whatever it is, can you just love it for a minute and just say, Oh, my God, sadness, I don't want you here again. But I see that you are here. What do you need for me? What do you need to show me. And so you start engaging in a relationship with that energy. And as soon as you do, guess what happens? All of a sudden that energy is like, Ah, she's paying attention to me, he's paying attention to me, they're honoring me. And they that energy starts to alchemize. It serves a shift just naturally by us engaging in a relationship to it. Now, it doesn't mean that like, you go into the victim, and you're like I am victim, or I'm just saying on or whatever that feeling is that showing up for you, and start building a relationship to it. Because you're going to find that you can change the energy. And oftentimes it will expedite getting out of that dark hole or getting out of the despair. So I felt compelled to share that. So someone obviously needed to hear that today, too.

I love it. And I call it giving yourself grace.

Yes, it is grace.

Giving yourself the grace to be human and to feel pain.

Yeah.

But then flipping it and realizing I have the power. You know, just like if you give all your power to somebody who left your marriage without your consent, which is ridiculous to say, but you know, you, you have marriages change. But if you sit there and think, Well, they took all my power, they made the decision. But if you pause and say, Okay, how did I bring us to this point? How did we as a couple come to this point, this is specific to me. And where were my failings? I wasn't perfect. And it took me a while to sort of come to the point of oh, there was a really hurtful act. But really, I contributed to this. And by taking that ownership of the negative part of myself, that was actually pulling back my power.

Yeah, yeah.

And then, you know, and just allowing yourself to say, I'm not powerless, no one's powerless. And I think that's huge.

Eventually, listeners, it is eventual. Because again, it takes time, it takes work, it takes patience with yourself. It takes love, it takes all these things. And the hardest part is it takes forgiveness on two things. Forgiveness for somebody who, who died forgiveness for somebody who who left, and there's forgiveness for somebody who got sick. I mean, the forgiveness is you don't realize how much you carry in resentment are holding on to things by not forgiving, and, and it's a really hard thing to do. It's not easy. But you just come talk to Dan, and he will tell you, we'll give you the boost. You know, we've been through it, we've been through it. And when you come out of it. I mean, I can't tell you people would tell me what we're telling the listeners today. And I'd be like, Oh, my God, just you know, where's my where's my Chardonnay? Just like, yeah, Angelou like, you know, I was I was in, in the shit, right, you get in that place. And it's hard to hear that there's light at the end of the tunnel. But there is a promise, there is.

You know, I want to speak to your forgiveness. And I know that we're getting close to our time, but I still want, I will still want to poke at you for some more stories, because you're such a great storyteller. But you brought up forgiveness. And I think this is a powerful one, too. I love how this conversation is just flowed from one thing to the next. And it just brings such power in just the process of having these conversations, people. And so inviting you to have more of these conversations with the people in your circles in your communities. Because the more we talk about these things, the more we get permission for others to talk about them, the more we give healing to the world, you know, storytelling is a form of medicine, I say. And so as we tell our stories, different pieces come up, just like the piece of forgiveness. So this forgiveness piece that you brought out is so critical. And I think that oftentimes, we don't even realize that we're still holding resentment, or we're holding anger or something towards somebody else. And the most common place where we hold that anger and resentment, guess guess who that's to ourselves. And I have had to do a lot of deep forgiving. I mean, I was raised Catholic. So in order to balance out your you know, your debt, you know, if you made a mistake, or if you screwed up or said the wrong thing, or whatever was, you had to feel guilty, you had to feel ashamed. And so I would as a kid, I remember just like feeling so guilty, because the more guilty I felt, it would mean the more I had, you know, balanced, you know, that energy out of something I had done.

And so I lived most of my life feeling really guilty, guilty for not saying the right thing guilty for doing that. The other thing, even mistakes that I had made feeling guilty. And so a big part of my self love Journey was really coming back to forgiving all the things and recognizing I always did the best that I could every given moment. And I'll never forget when a coach had said that to me. She said, DeeAnne we're always doing the best we can in every given moment. And I was like, No way I think about I could have chose a better boyfriend there. And I could have, you know, I could have not had a few extra drinks that night. And I could have done all those things differently. But the more I thought about it, the more I realized in that moment, that was the best thing that I could do. Because otherwise I would have chosen something else. And so it had to be the best thing that I possibly could have chosen And so that allowed me to move into Oh, we gotta kitty as a visitor. It allowed me to move into that deeper place of acceptance and forgiveness to say, okay, I can learn from those experiences, that's what they're there for me to do something with. And I can forgive myself for showing up the best that I knew how. And so I'm just inviting that peace of forgiveness for you. If there's layers, you know, in order for us to really forgive the people around us, I think it really comes down to forgiving ourselves first. And that can be one of the most difficult things and I'm not saying we can't forgive others before we fully forgive ourselves. But let me tell you, the forgiveness is powerful beyond measure, when we can do that forgiveness in ourselves first, forgiving ourselves for showing up in whatever capacity and then moving to that out of forgiveness. So thank you for bringing that to the surface, Jill.

So key and this, your whole discussion just now, I bring this up way too often, it's my I would say it's my mantra when you and this really helps me. And it's a Maya Angelou quote, and I don't have the complete quote, but I paraphrase it. And it's when you know, better you do better.

Yes.

And I saw it probably on Oprah years ago, because she, you know, I was raised by Oprah, and I love her. But it was just such wisdom of why beat yourself up, when you know better, you're gonna do better. And we don't all know, we don't know, in 18 and 20, sometimes not till you're 50, we just have to give yourself that, that space and again, grace, to learn at your own pace to grow at your own pace. And,

And when we give ourselves permission to do that, too. What happens is we have deeper compassion for other people. So you know, then we can say, Oh, they're doing the best that they know how to do. And so how can I be mad at them, they're doing their very best, and they don't know. And so then I can communicate with that compassion, grace, and hopefully help them to know better as well. So they can do better as well. So it opens up that whole dialogue. Okay, so I know I can talk for hours but

I know, I love this.

I would love to hear a fun little story about when spirit called you and I know spirit called you through your divorce and through your, you know, your mom passing. But can you think of a time when you felt that inner nudge, to do something and whether it buying crystals or whatever that was, I would love to just hear when has spirit called you aside from your big story.

You know, spirit has called me throughout my life with my attention, my attraction and love for animals. And I have to say, when I was married, we had fostered a couple of animals and had a couple and now that I'm on my own, I have a lot of animals and I do so much with rescue. And they have so many animals and I have to say it fills me up like nothing else. It is the most beautiful thing in my life. I my big why my big dream in the long run in this world is to open an open acreage animal sanctuary, where people can come and run with Amazon I if there I'm manifesting it. But really, this I feel called every day, in every minute of every day, my passion and love for animals nature. And I think that's why the crystals appealed to me. It's just the beauty of our world. And I have to say the beauty of an IG cats and dogs love all animals, maybe not snakes, no offense, but you know, I love my cats or dogs because they have, they teach you lessons. They have such unconditional love, they have forgiveness in spades, when you see animals that have been abused and their recovery and their trust. And you know, there's so many lessons to learn from them. So I'd say that is the huge journey I'm on in my life. And now that I'm single and have my house and my acreage onto my own, it's kind of exploded, because nobody's limiting me to what's new, you are living. It's a beautiful thing.

I love that, uh, you know, and I think this is so powerful, because now we can invite the listeners to tune into nature and animals, as signs as messages as learnings as teachers to guide us to. And you know, I already know that you're an intuitive animal communicator, deep inside those layers. And so I think it's so beautiful that you've allowed yourself to lean into that and follow that. And there you go, you put it out to the universe, that you're manifesting this animal sanctuary. So who knows what will come of that we've got it out there. And so I know it's already underway for you now.

Oh, and I will say this, you know, as we as women build our empires and our legacies doing passion, and heart centered work, when we make more when we create wealth We give more we make an impact on the world. And that's I men, I love all men too. I just focus on women because I do think there's a nurturing and a giving and a caretaking in our spirits.

Yeah.

And the beauty of having resources is being able to provide and give.

That's it.

And whether it's animals or children, or whatever your thing is

Whatever that is Yeah, and we all have our special roles to play. So I love that spirit is calling you to the animals. I think it's so brilliant. And, you know, Jill, this has just been so much fun. We might have to do this again. I love your energy I always have, how can people reach out to you know, if they say I want to be part of Jill's community, or I want to know what Jill's up to what do they need to do to find that information?

Well, first of all, so my business I launched over the pandemic is called, Hey, Taxi, our website is HeyTaxiAcademy.com. And we are a community and a Education and Training and Resource for women building businesses. So again, if you have your dream, your logo, we're gonna give you the belief and we're giving you business plans and tax strategy and all the unsexy things, but in a fun, accessible, easy way, because we don't want somebody who gets rich quick, we want somebody who gets rich, long term.

Yeah.

We want you to build sustainable businesses. So we want as many women as possible, who feel that doubt or feel that drive, you know, we want you to say there's a possibility, we want to show you the path because we've seen so many women do it. So that's what we do with Hey, Taxi. And Hey, Taxi Academy is also on LinkedIn, Instagram, you can reach me directly at Jill@Heytaxiacademy.com. And you can always Facebook friend me, because I'm all over Facebook. I'm on Instagram, because of my daughter and because of all the animal sites. And but no, and I'm sure otherwise you can reach out to DeeAnne because we are seeing each other weekly these days.

Yes, we are. And we're going to make sure that we put all your contact information in the notes so everyone can access that. And you know, it's so brilliant because I love this idea of flag down a cab or a taxi and being like, hey, someone's going to take me for a lift, I'm going to go on a journey, and they're going to get me there safely. And so I love the energy behind what you're creating is like the safe space for us to come in and be taken care of and be taken to where we want to go. So,

Take you down the road. Yes, give you the roadmap, all of that

All of it. Yeah, absolutely love it. Jill, you have been such a delight and joy to have on this show. Thank you so much for taking time to be with us.

We'll just have me back. This was so fun. I just want to keep going on.

I know right? There's so much there's so much. Well, we're gonna sign off for today. Thank you so much for listening in. And I look forward to spending more time with you all very soon on When Spirit Calls. Bye for now.