Meet My Divine Guide, Formerly Known As My Inner Critic

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Rev. Rose Hope: Oh my goodness, hello everyone. I'm so glad to be back with all of you. You've already learned a bit about my guest, Mahara, is in the house. Welcome.

I am so pleased. I'm so excited, and I'm feeling really blessed.

Rev. Rose Hope: What a wonderful way to start us off. You know, feeling blessed, right? How often do we get caught up in all the stuff that's going on in our world, and we forget that we indeed are blessed? So I want to start things off because you've had quite an experience, and some stories that have kind of brought you to where you are today. So will you give us a little back story? Because you do some really wonderful work now, but I'm you know, knowing you, there's been some roller coaster rides that you've been on, and I would love for the audience to know what that journey has been like for you.

Okay, well, first of all, thank you for inviting me to share my story, and it's so interesting, because when you were just in making that invitation, I heard a different story that I haven't thought about in a long time. So calls, Notes version. I'm menopausal, Jamaican. Live in Canada. I've done all kinds of work. I loved being on stage, as a dancer and as a performer. I love being a sales rep first, you know, catering company. I've loved everything I've done, but what I'm doing today, it's more than loving it. It is a need. The story that popped up in my head when I was very little, I'm going to guess I was about six or seven, my family moved to England from Jamaica. We needed to get away from the political climate in Jamaica. We moved to England, and our neighbors younger than us, invited me, the little girl, to show their dog in a dog show. They thought it would be really cute to have this cute little girl in pigtails walk along, you know, with their little dog. I can't even remember what type of dog it was. I'm guessing it was a small dog. And I was so proud that I was being given this opportunity. My mom and dad were there, and I walked into the ring, and they gave me the leash to hold, and as soon as I took a few steps, the dog bolted. It wasn't the correct leash, and the dog got out of my control and got off the lead and went tearing through this very proper English dog show, and I just froze and sought I was so embarrassed. Everybody was looking at me, and it was, it was heartbreaking, because even though the people felt badly and they're like, oh my god, sweetheart, it was our fault. No, no, it's all good. I remember standing there with the tears, and I think it's one of the earliest moments that I felt shame. Wow, and I it kind of built on top of another experience where I learned to just be quiet because I was told I talk too much, little girl, well, I've been told it all my life, actually, but I think the feeling of shame by having all eyes look to me, yeah, that came right after such a beautiful feeling of pride, right? Was shocking to the system and devastating to my soul, my little girl, and the work that I do now, Jesus, 53, years later, is specifically speaking to that little girl. Wow. Wow, true. No, that story was going to come out.

Rev. Rose Hope: Isn't that amazing how that happens? Right where it's like it just drops in for us to make some connections. So that's a really powerful why story to me, you know, because how often have we experienced a moment where we're just so excited to do something to, you know, to be a certain something, and all of a sudden it's like the wind is taken from our sales, and I think about times in my life where that has happened, in fact, really recently, with the launch of my book, and then seeing some of the challenges, or the issues with some of the formatting and the grammar, and then feeling almost that sense of like shame and embarrassment that it's not perfect heaven for. It, it's not perfect. So it sounds to me like spirits obviously been calling you since you were very little. And so I'm curious to know, you know you had this great career performing, and then you had this another career in sales, and you loved those experiences. What was it that really came to you that said, mahari, you've got to switch gears. Like, was there a moment in your career where you're just like, I can't do this anymore?

Rev. Rose Hope: Wow.

It was tough for my family, because they're like, you've been waiting to lose your job.

Rev. Rose Hope: Like, doesn't make sense to most people, right? Makes sense.

But I was so happy, and I just said, Thank you. Wow.

You know what's really funny is I remember because many of us lost our jobs. I wasn't the only one, but, and about two or three months prior to my going, one of my peers was let go, and she shared with me that she said, you know, Mahara, it's okay because I got a package, right? And I remember saying to the universe, okay, you know what package would look really good, right? Now, how lucky would I be that I don't have to be here, and I actually don't lose any money for it, I think. And of course, you know, two or three months later, and I'm like,

Rev. Rose Hope: there it is. There it is. Yeah,

I have learned over the years, this was just in one of many instances where I know that the people, whatever God, Spirit, universe, is listening. And many of my manifestations that I put that in quotation marks have been throw away comments that I realized, and I'm like, wow, okay, I've had some that were not throw away. I've had some that were like, Okay, I need this right now. Not joking, yeah, but those were, those were a little bit different, but, yeah, it's I get them all the

Rev. Rose Hope: time. Now, I think this is really interesting. I want to bring this to the surface, because I think that happens all the time. We're like, Oh, I wish I would have this, or, if only you know, I got that opportunity. And I think we forget the potency of our thoughts and our words sometimes, and to maybe lean in a little bit more to what we're putting out there into the world, right?

Well, I think it comes down to this need or this the benefit of being present, because when the more present I've been that's when things tend to happen. Because first of all, I'm aware of what I'm thinking, I'm aware of what I'm saying, and I've allowed myself, I've given myself permission to really feel the feels. Yes, often I am not, because I'm so busy, caught up getting stuff done when the kids were looking constant, pick them up. Them here. Do this, do that. You know, all of these things. I think of it as, you know, the clutter brain that's operating on autopilot so far away from what's in my heart, I just don't have time to deal with my heart. I don't have time now. I'm like, Okay, I want to make. I love making time for my heart. My heart. I love it. Yeah,

Rev. Rose Hope: it's so worth that. And I I feel like this is a mistake that many of us make because we're busy. This world is inundated with distractions and things to do, and so there's such a disconnect with our hearts. So what do you do to create more presence than in your life? You know that moment when your daughter was like, I'm right here and I'm talking to you, and here you are diving into work. You know that was one of those moments where you were being called to presence. And now that you're aware of those moments, and now that you're moving through life in this way, I'm curious to know, what are your practices that maybe would be beneficial for our listeners, of like, what that means for you and how you do that.

So, so good. Great question. So this is one of the laugh about it now, because remember I said earlier I get I used to get in trouble when I was a little because I talked too much. I am talking more than ever, talking to myself, constantly having a conversation with myself, and this is a conversation that is unlike previous conversations, where I was very hard on myself, you idiot. You should have Why didn't you my conversations? Now, are that's interesting. Where did that come from? Oh my god. What do you why did you say that? What is your feeling? Now, okay, just take a moment so I talk to myself. So that's my number one tip, is I listen to what I'm saying, and the hair is a challenge, guys, I know sometimes what we hear we don't like, but I'm going to invite you, because this is what I've done for myself, to listen without judgment and just be curious about what you're saying. Like, oh my god, I just sounded like my mother, anything or a bad thing. But I have made it my mission to get to know me. I think do that by asking myself questions, really good questions, yes,

Rev. Rose Hope: like hard questions. I think this is so powerful, because I think we forget to question ourselves, right? We get a thought, and then we just hook into that thought, you know, and create all these stories for ourselves, right? Rather than okay, what's. Beneath that, like, is that really how you feel, right? Is that really what's going on? Is that the truth, you know, really questioning ourselves? So I love this self talk, and I love this idea of hearing ourselves without judgment, and that is, it's a practice, isn't it a practice? Yeah, definitely a practice. It really is, but this is a wonderful start and invitation for us to be a bit more present and to also start peeling back the layers, because it's so easy for us to get caught up in these stories that we make up, and then we run with the story, and then we usually end up suffering in the story somewhere along the way.

Absolutely the other thing that has worked for me, and I think because I I tuned into it when I was quite young, was I pay attention to my dreams.

Rev. Rose Hope: Ooh, I love this one too.

Always. I've always been a prolific dreamer. That's the right word, prolific. Yeah, yeah. Now I recognize that I'm a lucid dreamer, which means that I can take control of my dreams if I want to. I think that's what that's what it means to Yes, yeah, but me too, I have always I was raised in a home that accepted the metaphysical. I'm Jamaican. My parents were very open to the spirit world and just the laws of the universe. So I grew up with a dad that said, you know, there are laws in this universe, in the world, sweetheart, and you need to, you know, bless them and release them. Recognize your energy, own your power, like he just said things like that. So I grew up in a household thinking that, and I learned early on that my dreams were telling me something, because they were just so vivid. Wow, just so incredibly vivid. So with excitement, I look forward to my dreams and I will, and I don't always get the answer. Well, let me be honest, I rarely get the answer. I quote want. Often I will get an answer that I don't realize is the answer until a year later. But what it has done is that I'm not afraid of my dreams ever, and I woke them up for a connection and a discussion with the other side.

Rev. Rose Hope: Oh, I love this, because I'm also very lucid dreamer. And I also had the privilege of learning early on that I had power within my dreams, and I could make decisions in my dreams, I could change the course of my dreams. For not it doesn't work that way for everybody, though, there are some people that feel like they don't have dreams, and one of my suggestions for people, if you don't think you're a dreamer, or you don't remember your dreams, I still want to invite people to do that reflective piece and to say, Okay, what did I gain last night? Because what a lot of people don't realize Mahara, is that we get downloads as we're sleeping. And in fact, a lot of downloads come between three and five. So if y'all waking up between three and five, a lot of time, there's a lot of activity that happens there. So even if you think you don't remember, one of my habits is to have. I have my book beside my bed, and so as I wake up or in the morning, I will write out my dreams and things that were really potent and that really helps me. And if I don't remember my dreams that that night, I'll just say, What did I gain in my sleep space last night? So I still open up that possibility, and then let Spirit just drop in whatever thoughts and ideas as well. So it's a really beautiful way of digging a little bit deeper, opening up that space for what's beyond this three dimensional reality, and pulling some really cool golden nuggets, even if, like you said, it takes a whole year for you to realize that the answer was in that, right? But we don't know if we just put it aside, right? Because many of us, we just, we have a dream, we forget about it, right? And there's so much potency in that, and there's so much getting to know ourselves in that process too. So again, another piece, yeah,

the other thing I want to also just say here is, you know, how people talk about, you know, don't watch, don't watch the news before going to bed. You know, turn off television. You know, hour before you go to sleep. I am very aware of when a dream is, is simply because of what I the last thing I watched. Well, I would see you a lot at night, times when I can't remember the dream, but I remember the feeling, yeah, and I can connect the feeling to something that I watched on TV quite often. It's a fee, oh, yeah, okay, that's why, all right, then I can just let that go, like, that's not for me, you know? If it's not, if I don't have a strong pull to it, I'll say, oh, that's why I had that dream. Okay, that makes sense. So there is something to that, right?

Rev. Rose Hope: Ooh, I love that too. Because not always will we remember the visual, but we might remember the feeling that we had in that experience, right? So there's a thread that we can pull on with that, too. So brilliant. Oh, I love it.

Other thing I would say that I've really gotten into in the last year is, oh, my God, just taking

Rev. Rose Hope: a breath, ah. Oh yes, right.

It serves for me. It serves multiple purposes. But the very first thing it does is it reminds me that I have the gift of light. I may also have the gift or the fear of worry and annoyance and all of those other human things that we experience. But first and foremost, I am blessed to still be breathing. I, you know, when I was a professional dancer, breathing was very important, because we had to, you know, when I had to sing and dance at the same time, you had to learn to regulate your breath and right? It was a whole thing, and I've forgotten all of that. But most of us don't breathe nearly as deeply as we could, and what will really benefit not only our body physically, but our body spiritually, our ourselves spiritually when we breathe deep. So my three tips, well, I can't even, oh yeah, ask yourself great questions. Pay attention to your dreams and breathe deeply as often.

Rev. Rose Hope: I love those, and they're so simple, right? They're not overly complicated. And yet, we have a tendency of over complicating so much in life, don't we? It's really that simple, everyone. It's really that simple. Oh, simple. So one of the things that you spoke about in sharing your story, that came out multiple times with this, was this idea of shame. And so I feel like this is a really important topic of discussion. What do you think we can be doing to help us if we are feeling this energy of shame? First of all, do you have your own definition for shame, and what are the things that you've done to help yourself move you through that shame? Because obviously it's not holding you hostage anymore. And so is there something or a process or anything that you feel on your heart would be beneficial to those that are listening that might be still sitting in some shame or embarrassment?

Okay, two really good questions, how do I define shame? A couple things popped into my mind. There's a level of I've disappointed myself, myself in the human form. I should know better. I spoke I was mean to my husband. I was rude to my mother, for example, these are because my human self knows. But then I think the deeper shame is, Have I shamed my spirit in so much as I have not been paying attention and I I don't know if I'm going to explain this correctly, but I really believe that when I have felt the deepest shame, it's when I have ignored my truth, yeah, which is myself, my highest Yeah, I can't articulate it, but I'm feeling something, and it's like, you know, it's like a dagger, yeah? That was a bit, yeah. I don't know if I'm making sense, but I think there's two levels of name. There's surface like, Oh, I know better, right? Why not? That's that was so mean of me. But deeper, I am ignoring my greatness. I am I'm flipping the bird at Spirit. He has turned my back on my on my beliefs or on my truth, yes, and that is that feels, it resonates in me as deep shame. So I think that's my definition. I

Rev. Rose Hope: really love that actually, you know, I kind of would associate shame with guilt that hasn't been dealt with. You know, where, if we sit in guilt for too long, it's like it becomes this heavier burden of shame. But what you're the way that you explain this of like, Oh no, it's like the shame comes in because I haven't addressed whatever I was guilty about or I hadn't looked at that. So now I'm disappointed myself, and now all of a sudden, I'm also not listening to my true spirit in that space. And once we're swallowed up in the shame, it's hard to find our way, right? We were clawing. Yes, that's the image I'm getting too. Is like this clawing out of like, trying to get out of the shame space. And so then what happens is, if we're stuck in that space, then we make more decisions that validate what a shameful being we are, right? And so it's a slippery slope. But I love this idea of this deeper disappointment in self, and then a deeper aspect of like really not paying attention to that inner truth, that truth of what, what we really know, is in alignment for us and in harmony for us. So it's beautiful. So what do you do when the shame comes up, and what have you done with that little girl who you know was standing there with the dog running around and feeling so much shame?

Okay, so I've done a couple things. The first thing I do without realizing that. It is I hear my dad, who's no longer with us, but he used to say, bless them and release them. I've gotten in the habit of blessing me yes to say, you're blessed. It's okay, hey, comrade, right where you're meant to be. So these phrases that are become, become very popular in our culture today. They may seem trite, but the minute they're not, they will always be powerful, right? They're trite until you, until they make sense to you. Yes, everything, right? So these phrases that my dad used to say, that I've heard people like Louise Hay writing her book, and other you know, they seem trite until you get it, and then when you get it, you're like, give me that

Rev. Rose Hope: right,

right now. So I'm nice to myself moment. And the other thing that I do is something very consciously. It's called compassionate self forgiveness. It's something a tool that came out of the University of Santa Monica. It's based on this understanding that we have limiting beliefs, based on misunderstandings from our youth, because when we're little, we just don't have the brain power, simple as that. So I grew up thinking that one plus one equals four. Damage that caused me in accounting right before you idiot, right? Of course, I'm being facetious, but now that I know that I just, I just misunderstood something from my past, and I can bless myself and forgive myself for buying this understanding that I thought one plus one equals two. It really didn't. The truth is, oh my god, one plus one equals two. It equals two. And I know that, and I love the number two, and I I, you know, relish the number two and all of these other truths that can come out of this. So I perform compassionate self forgiveness on myself on a fairly regular basis. Because, you know what, I can be foolish it sometimes, and I get like I used to do all those years ago. So those are two things that, Ooh,

Rev. Rose Hope: I love this compassionate self forgiveness, because I think it's a piece that many of us struggle with. You know, we're so self critical. We're really hard on ourselves. I know for me, you know, growing up, it was so hard on myself, and you know, I would keep beating myself up, you know, over and over again. Even if they were different mistakes, it didn't matter, like it was wasn't perfect enough. And one of the things that really stood out for me over this last decade of doing work that I'm doing as well is the power of No wonder. And that sounds to me a lot like what you're doing is you're saying No wonder you acted that way, no wonder you believed that thing, no wonder you said what you said, you know, and that is what I call grace, right? It's like tuning into the grace for ourselves, because I believe, if we have more compassion and grace for ourselves, the more we can give it to the rest of the world, right? And it really starts to dissolve that place of judgment that oftentimes we come from of like the self judgment or the judgment of others, right? And so I love that we can lean into that and say, No, I was given that belief at one point, and I only had the capacity to believe that was true. And now I have new information, so I get to change those beliefs. And I think there's such power in knowing we get to change the beliefs, what you think out there, what you're thinking in your mind, even now, might be different tomorrow. You have the power to choose how you're thinking, and so many of us have kind of just let that power go, and yet we have so much within ourselves. Yeah, absolutely,

100% we are great storytellers, until we're not, uh huh, and we have the courage to recognize that the stories we've been telling about ourselves no longer serve us, even if they were true, it's not about whether they were true or not. It's whether the way you are repeating it actually serves you. Yeah, it doesn't serve you. If it gives you that knot in your stomach, if it makes your skin crawl, if it makes you cry, if it just feels like a heavy cloak, then you know what? One of the things I do with my clients is I I give them permission. I said, give yourself permission to take the coat off. That's new story up until now. I believe this. Up until now.

Rev. Rose Hope: Up until now. Ooh, I like that one.

Isn't that powerful, that's

Rev. Rose Hope: a good one. Up until now, I believed this.

Here's what took me a long time to understand. The brain does not have a sense of humor. The human brain does not have a sense of humor, and it will work to prove whatever you are telling it to right? So if you say, when I say to myself, I'm such an idiot, my brain will say, Yep. You know why? Because A, B, C, D, E, F, G, all. All

Rev. Rose Hope: the way through the Alpha. It finds all the evidence. For you find the evidence.

Whereas today, I used to say that all the time. I used to lots of things, but today I'm much my the questions are much more interesting. Like, Ooh, that was interesting. How can we do that even better next time? Oh, let me tell you. Well, you can set your alarm so you don't sleep in. You plan your meal so you don't overeat. But it's a completely different story. And that's just, that's just neuroscience, folks, yeah, for me, that's, that's the science of how the brain works. So once I began to understand that, I now actually have fun. Yes, I bring a sense of I try to bring a sense of levity. And it's almost like universe, you are not gonna one up. Me on this one. I'm so you so gay. I heard you, you know, I see that, and I raise you by 10. Yes, being a sense of levity to my life right now. And oh, my God, it feels better, doesn't

Rev. Rose Hope: it? Yeah, it sure does. And I love that you're able to do that. And I think, you know, this comes up quite often in sessions with clients, where they're taking things so serious, you know, their mind is in overdrive. They got all these things to do. Life is so serious, and if something goes wrong, it's like the worst thing ever, and they're stuck in that seriousness. And what I hear you saying is that we can make it lighter for ourselves. We can lighten the load. We don't have to be in that that intense state that we can lighten the load, and so allowing it to be more of a playful experience, right? Those conversations with the mind, those curiosities, like letting that be play, and that's a beautiful way to lighten the load. And then, of course, throwing some humor in there too.

One of my coaches, earlier in my life, I was, I was bitching about something. Who knows why? I can't remember, but I was kind of like, on and on and on. And this, this coach, this woman just looked at me and said, Yeah, who cares? And I went, excuse me. And she's like, well, I don't mean who cares, but so what? And she kept coming up with things that were basically the same thing, and I had to, by the end of it, I'm like, okay, you know what? I get it. It is not the end of the world that the Bagger at Safeway took extra long and packing my bags, and then I, you know, all of these things. It really just helped to shift the perspective. And that was one of the earliest times I remember that somebody called me on my BS, maybe I'm gonna called me out, and Tuesday, I don't even know if she realized what she was doing. To be honest, you're right. Yeah, it was,

Rev. Rose Hope: wow. It's so fascinating to me, because, you know, I've had experiences like that too, where someone kind of called me out on stuff, and it's our tendency to be like, What? No, you know, we get defensive. We want to explain why we showed up the way we showed up. But this is another big invitation, I think, for all of us, when somebody calls you on something, it's because they love you. It's because they actually care, right? And I want people in my life now that are going to call me on my stuff, because oftentimes my stuff, it's, I'm blinded to it, right? We can't see it, right? It's too close to us. And so having people in our lives that are also there to bear witness and to call us out, I think, is there's power in that, and that's why I think having a mentor or coach is such an asset for all of us. And I'm sure you've continued to have coaches in your life as well. I

absolutely do, but I want to something that just popped into my head as you were sharing that was, it is possible to have somebody call you out from a place of love and non judgment. It's also possible to be called out from a place of judgment, and that hurts. Yes. Want to point out that there's a difference there. And often, and this is my personal experience, when I have been called out from a place of judgment, I hear it as being called out, but I'm so angry that it's coming from a place of judgment that I put up the walls. Yeah, right, down, right, right. So this has been something that I have been working on, is how to now I recognize the difference is, yes, in a conversation with the other party about the difference, oh, and

Rev. Rose Hope: yeah, this is I'm so glad that you brought that up, because, yes, there are those ways in which we can be called out on stuff. I remember a story with my older sister, and she's just like the kindest, most beautiful soul. She works as an education assistant in the school system, and somebody called her out in a meeting with other people. And it was not something that big that she had done wrong, really, and it was really one of those situations that should have been dealt with directly, but this person was throwing the daggers, and in that moment, she just felt so crushed and so defeated. That is an example when we're calling somebody out on their stuff in a place of judgment or with maybe an intent to hurt back because they got hurt or whatever the reason is. And so I think it's important for us to recognize that there is a difference, like you said, and to me, if I'm coming from a place of love. I'm doing it in a way that honors that person, that's not going to cause them to feel unsafe or vulnerable in an unhealthy way. It's with an open opportunity for them to share whatever they're feeling back as well. And so really bringing that to the surface, because I think it's easy for us to be like, Oh, my God, you know, they're attacking me. Ah, you know. And it's easy for us to get triggered when someone's still doing it from a place of love, because of our past experiences when it was from a place of judgment.

Yeah, I want to share with your audience an example of being in judgment without realizing it. Ooh, okay. Yeah, so my mother is amazing, best mom ever. She figured heavily. In my first book, I wrote a story called, I think it was called, best mom ever, actually. Oh, I haven't read it in a while. It's a compilation of small, little, little stories. My mom is still alive. She's going to be 98 oh, wow, gonna be 98 in a couple months. I'm 59 she's gonna be 98 she does have dementia, and she has been in, uh, assisted care living for many years now, and has progressively gotten worse. When I was writing my book, I was very excited about it, and I would talk to her every day as I was beginning to be on this journey. And I remember getting very frustrated with her, because she was at that point where she knew enough. I felt I judged that she knew enough to know what was going on, but she was just not trying hard enough in our conversations on the phone, so she would ask the same questions over again, where do you live and who's in charge of my money? Those are sort of the three questions. It just went around and around and around. And I remember one conversation, we kind of were having a more quote, normal conversation, and then she lost it again, and I felt myself getting very angry, and I snapped at her mom. I just told you, Mom, do you have your hearing aid in? And I was in the midst of a year long certification program in mass in as a mastery method coach, and I brought that experience to the mastermind that week, and I walked away realizing that I was in such judgment for her because she wasn't the mom that I wanted or needed. Oh, I was angry. I'm writing a book. I need you to validate me, and I love you to remind me how special I am because Mom, I'm writing a fucking book out there, and where are you? You're lost. You're not but I realized that, holy moly, first of all, that shame. Again, I felt such shame. Why did I know better? I'm a coach. Oh, my God, this is what I do for a living. How did not see that I'd fallen in to that trap. So then, yeah, time I spoke to her, which was like the next day, she started to again, go off and not remember and tell me a story. And I remember making the conscious decision that I was not going to judge her for not being the mom I knew or needed, but I was going to step into her reality instead of forcing her to step back into mine. Wow, so I did that. I said, Tell me about it. Mom, really. And she went off on this fantastic story. Who knows if it ever happened? Who knows who cares? But she was so happy that I joined her instead of trying to correct her. And of course, now that I know more about dementia, of course, I did everything wrong in that moment before this was sort of how you handle it, but really, when you take away the dementia component, all I did was let go of judgment. Yeah, I just met her where she is.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yes, brilliant. And is it that isn't that what we all want, yes, to just be seen and heard as we are and accepted as we are. You know, so beautiful. I love that. That really helps us to wrap our heads around this idea of coming into judgment. You know, we are so good at judging ourselves. And, you know, I used to judge myself for then judging, you know, how you get in that rabbit hole, yeah, the the loop of like, oh my god, I'm judging, how bad of me to judge, and that I'm judging myself, right? So I think it's beautiful when we can look at, you know ourselves, as the witness, and ask ourselves the question, Why did I show up in that way? What's really going on for me? What are my expectations here? And. Falling away from judgment is such a powerful invitation for all of us these days, because I think we're in this hyper fixated judgment, like judging that sect of people, judging that group of people, judging that person you know, and yet what we're being asked to do is really come into ourselves and build this beautiful relationship with ourselves. And you know, earlier in the talk you said like that was the number one. You're asking yourself really good questions. You're getting to know yourself. And I think if we all do a little bit more of that, this world becomes a much better place, doesn't it? Absolutely.

Mahara, I I'm sad that we're out of time, because I feel like you've got so many other stories that are bubbling to the surface, but we are going to wrap up for today. How can people find out about you? I know you've got an incredible podcast, but what is your invitation for our audience today?

What a beautiful question. So my invitation to the audience, it's twofold. I invite you to look at yourself in the mirror and say, Thank you all the work that you've done to get me here, wherever you are in your world right now, in your life, you're exactly where you meant to be, and you hard work to get there. So I invite you to quote your view, give yourself some grace and just recognize that you are a divine child of the universe. You have every right to be here, and we're excited that you're here.

Rev. Rose Hope: Can I just tell you that that landed so hard for me, I don't know if I've ever thanked myself, ever, ever, ever, I thanked God. I've thanked others, but I don't think I don't have a conscious memory in my mind that I've ever thanked myself. So I received that. Thank you. You are welcome. Oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be thanking myself all night long.

The other thing that I will invite the audience to do is to if anything that I've said resonated with you, I invite you to to reach out to me. My you can reach out to me on any platform through my business name mindfulness, with Mahara, I have a podcast at two podcasts. One's called The Art of badassery, where I interview badass people, and the second one is called mindfucks with Mahara, where I lovingly, with a little bit of sass and and brass, talk about some things that really are working for us in our mind, things that we do that really just are not supporting us on our Journey. So you can listen to my podcast. You can follow me on Instagram, at mindfulness with Mahara, or you can just send me an email, Mahara at mindfulness with mahara.com and what I'd love to offer all of your guests is an extended, badass breakthrough session. I call myself the badass Alchemist, so I help my clients really navigate the reality of a 3d life with badass strategies and mysticism of their 5d life. So I help my clients connected to and Oh, I love it. I would love to offer your listeners an extended badass breakthrough session. They're typically half an hour. But anybody that calls or books a session with me from this, I'd love to offer you a full 60 minute session. Wow.

Rev. Rose Hope: Dream of a better world. Everybody. We can do that. I'm in. Thank you so much, Mahara, and thank you so much for tuning in to another edition of When Spirit calls until next time. Be well. Bye for now.

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