The Bigger Picture: Love Is the Answer

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Rev. Rose Hope: I am thrilled to introduce our guest today. Our guest, MD Selig didn't just write for the screen. He lived a life worthy of it, a decorated Marine combat jet attack pilot, his real world experiences flying missions around the globe are the engine driving his cinematic storytelling, armed with a history degree from the University of Arkansas, selling dives deep into the questions most are afraid to ask, merging the gripping tension of his real world experience with a historian's eye for ignored details, the results are cinematic stories that have captured audiences on Netflix Showtime and Amazon Prime. Now with his international best selling novel Hush, readers are left wondering what other covert histories lay in wait. Please welcome our guest, MD Selig, to our show today.

Oh, hello everyone. You are back on another edition of When Spirit calls, and we're so happy to have you listening. And thank you so much for joining us time and time again to hear about all the magical, wonderful stories that we have to share with you, and the value that we want to deliver to you as well. Today, you have learned a little bit about our guest, MD, in the bio, but I want to open the floor up to MD, thank you for being here with us.

My honor, DeeAnne, my honor.

Rev. Rose Hope: We're gonna have some fun today, and so in good old when spirit fashion, we always bring up this, what is the story? What got you to where you are today? And so let us learn about you. I want to know. I want to know what the story is. I want to know how MD became the MD that he is. Now sure.

to start to pull back the curtain. I mean, looking back on it, I realized that's kind of the time where I realized this is all well above the mechanism that's turning the screws here is well above the American government or the American military, or all governments. I just had a sense it was a bigger thing. So I couldn't really do anything in that at that time, because I was just trying to survive day by day. But I basically finished my career as a pilot and went right into screenwriting. Yeah. And so I went swing, yeah? Well, I went to LA because I knew I had been a writer before that, and I and a musician. So I thought, I'm gonna go into film and music. I'm not just gonna go fly a commercial airliner. I'd have been bored after flying kind of, you know, it's like race cars to a bus or something. I just, I couldn't do that.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, it feels like a couple notches back, you know? Yeah, right.

Rev. Rose Hope: Wow. This is incredible. I like, I just want to peel back all the layers, because there's so many questions that I have about this whole experience for you. You know, first of all, you know, thank you for your service. You know, I know you probably get that a lot, and it probably doesn't feel like there's depth there, but I truly deeply. I think it's great, right? Is it the amount of courage that that takes, right and willingness to put yourself out there? You know, you talked about the recognition of the incongruence of seeing the media but knowing a deeper truth, and you saw that there was a big gap with that. How has that impacted, you know, your writing nowadays, you know, in wanting to be a bit more of a truth seeker, how does that kind of manifest itself or show up for you? Or does it?

Well, certainly, I'm skeptical of anything in the media. I mean, to the point now where, for the last maybe year and a half, I really don't look at the media at all because I know that's their narrative. Yeah. And when I say there, that's a very small group, I identify and hush and so I won't go into the super details of it, but I identify the small group that kind of runs the planet. I call them the Cabal, but they are basically the Blue Bloods, the Rockefellers, the very top folks, from a standpoint of wealth, and since they've been in those families forever, they tend to continue to run that mo as it's passed down. So what happens is the very small have access to the alien traded technologies, because they're able to control when a ship crashes, they're able to control not only the military, but they're able to control anything to do with with whatever part of the world that thing has been found in. And then they get access to that technology. So that's a lot of when I when you ask me about, how does it affect you, the research behind how they've controlled this and kept it so quiet for so long. That's how it's affected me to kind of over time, see their their kind of sinister little ways of doing things where they suicide people and things like that, meaning they assassinate people who have a big mouth, so to speak, right? And that's how they've kept it down, and how they keep the public basically controlled on many levels, not just on alien related stuff, but the way they turn the screws on just regular mass media is, is pretty, pretty overwhelming.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, this is so interesting. You know, knowing what you know and you having the courage to express it. I mean, you could be one of those assassinations potentially. Does that worry you or do you just trust that this is part of your divine mission here?

Like, yeah, it's more. It's more. The latter, I just come in from love, and what are they going to do, shoot me and kill me. I'm just going to get bigger. My book's already out there.

Rev. Rose Hope: That's right, okay, I love that, because it's kind of going crazy. Yeah, I can't wait to get my hands on it, because I've been in that circle of conspiracy theorists for quite some time. I'm actually going to Mount Shasta for a little UFO thing this summer. And so, you know, I've been privy to a lot of this, you know, the bigger story or the bigger narrative. And, you know, someone said to me, not very long ago, they said, Oh yeah, well, you know why. It's called broadcasting. It's spell casting, but to a broad, mass audience, and so recognizing the spells that have been cast, essentially. And so these are, like. Those words and those statements and the fear plague and all the things that they're trying to do to keep us again in control as part of the big you know, whether you call it WF or whatever, you know. But I think what it comes back to is revealing as much truth as we possibly can see through our own light, right?

Right? Yeah, trying to reverse the narrative,

Rev. Rose Hope: yes, yes, yes, exactly, because most of us are so caught in that trap, right? And that's what I see hush as being as, hey, we're trying to show you guys there's a whole nother reality that exists that you can't even witness because you've been brainwashed to not see it, right? And it's there, but we can't see it. We've been brainwashed not to see it anyway. I just find this so fascinating. So Okay, question for you, because you mentioned, you know, UFOs, and you mentioned the technology that we have access to. Have you had any encounters in your time in space, or, like, not in space, but flying and that sort of thing. I'm curious to know if that's maybe a story in your book, but I'd love to hear it if there is one,

about it.

Rev. Rose Hope: So it's so interesting. It's that cognitive dissonance, right? You know, that we gotta get trapped into So, okay, so now you are this incredible writer. This is your passion. Is it the writing piece and writing and music? Yeah, and music too. Okay. So do you feel like you that you are a bit of a channeler like, you know, do you feel like it comes from some divinity or some other source that moves through you?

It's interesting. I tell Lincoln, my assistant and my best friend here, he's the one who kind of keeps me straight on these podcasts. And I had told him as I was finishing Hush, because that was a three year endeavor to write that. Normally I write 120 page screenplay, but that's a 600 page novel, and it's written, like, one long screenplay. And I was telling him toward the end, I'm like, bro, there's weird stuff happening with what's coming in, like, like a fire hose, the amount of information that I was getting, because normally I do insane research, right? So I call it the committee now, and since that time, Lincoln has actually been privy to a couple of strange real time where I'll get on a podcast, because I'm on a lot of podcasts lately, and, you know, I'm there for the interview, and all of a sudden the woman says, you know, I got to tell you about something that I just want to tell you before we do the podcast. And of course, Lincoln's listening in on the other computer to kind of watch my performance so I don't, you know, spit up or something. And he kind of keeps me straight like, you know, don't slurp your tea or whatever, but, but he's listening in, and all of a sudden she goes off on a topic that I had just told Lincoln that I'm working on for the next for the next novel for Hush, which is a covert evil volume one, but I'm working on Volume Two now, and I'm researching certain covert events and certain known events that have a lot of covert elements that occurred, and she goes off on a. On a facet of what's coming in Volume Two that I and I'm just telling you, not in a million years would I've ever found out what she brought up to the point where I just looked over at Lincoln, like, Ro, you're, you're hearing this, like, and he was, like, kind of spooked. Like I was spooked, like they're here, like, the committee is Michael. Go that way. You're going to do this, this interview, and then you're going to get this new information for

volume two, because we need this out. You know, it was like, it's like that. So I just tell everybody now I I kind of have a sense of them. I don't, you know, they don't come and stand in my doorway, but right absolutely present, I'm being driven to write at a much more valid level and a much more powerful level because of the people that are getting in touch with me that I'm being tuned into not of my doing, and the book has now become like an international bestseller, and that's not me either. I mean, I write. I'm a good writer, but I'm just saying that the stuff that is occurring with the novel is far beyond the mechanics that I'm turning Yes.

Rev. Rose Hope: Oh, okay, I love this, and I want to, I want to build on this, because I think it's so imperative for all of humanity to understand their their power, their ability for personal power. I'm not saying power over others. That's we don't need that, right? What we need is our personal power and understanding that we are so filled with these beautiful, beautiful inner technology. So a big part of my passion work is inner technology. And we have been conditioned to believe that, oh no, that's bad, or no, we don't have it. And yet we have experiences like what you just mentioned, where this other interviewer was, you know, hitting things that they're like, how could she possibly know these things, like, what is going on here and and it's because there's the beyond, there's the the inner beyond as well that is working. And I love that you said, you know, you've got this council, this, you know, I call, I call, my mind, the divine Council. And I even now, as we're speaking, I feel galactic energies come in. And and I want to just share with you a little story. For some reason I'm being told to share this. So I used to be terrified of of UFOs and aliens because I used to watch, I used to sneak out of my room and watch Unsolved Mysteries on our little TV.

That's like me watching dark shadows.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, right. Yeah, so and, but it created fear in me, and yet I knew I came from there, so it was a very, you know, interesting evolution for me in the relationship. And I remember when someone first started mentioning that they were on the the Council of galactic federation. And I'm thinking like, you guys are out to London. I don't know about that, but as I leaned into that, and I opened up the possibility and the relationship, and I did my own learning and research. All of a sudden, this remembrance started to come inside of me. I started to remember these moments, these experiences. I remember being on ships. I remember being on other planets. Things started to happen. And I thought, Okay, I'm really losing my mind now, especially coming from, like, a very medical kind of professional background, of course, but as I started to lean in, I started to build relationships with these energies or these entities, and the information that was being revealed to me you couldn't make up like it was so on point and so accurate and so beautiful and So a few months ago, I was on Lake Ontario. I was there seeing a client. They asked me to come do a blessing and a clearing on their farm. And so I was staying on this farm, and I was feeling a bit uncomfortable when I went to bed at night, and just something wasn't feeling settled. And, you know, I was having, you know, some pain. And all of a sudden, with my eyes open, I saw the image of a large praying mantis being, and it was about nine feet tall. And I felt a gentleness right away, like the gentleness just exuded from this being. I didn't feel scared. I also had an awareness that there was a ship outside, like just hovering above the water, which I thought was interesting too. Like it was like I couldn't see it out the window, but I could see it in my mind, very so anyways, with my eyes open, I'm seeing this being. It's almost like it's, it's imposed in my sight. And I said, Are you here to

help me? Like I was confused, but I asked questions, and I said, Yes. And I said, Oh, can you help me with this? Yes. Immediately the pain went away. Oh, what else can you help me to fall asleep? Yes, and then I was asleep. So it was a really beautiful interaction. And I'm hearing, you know, as I start sharing this story with other people, they're like, Oh, my God, I had this and I had this and I had this. So many people have connected to these energies. And so, yeah, it's, you know. It's a reminder for us that we do have access. It's a reminder for us that if we're willing to be good stewards of humanity and reveal the truth being the light bearers that we are, that we will, you know, we will overcome what we have been, I guess, dealing with or having to, you know, from the beginning of time, right? And so I just think it's such a fascinating, beautiful experience for all of us. So it sounds to me like you have a sense of these galactic beings, and you have a sense that you're getting wisdom that you don't even need to do research for. Is that fair to say?

Or it's just coming. It's coming way too quick and way too easy and right people showing up at the right time that it's not, it's kind of a beyond a synchronicity, it feels and other stuff occurring too, not just with my writing, but working a lot, kind of from the love space of working on, kind of my multi dimensional self, and realizing the juice that's there, that's been a big adjustment for me too, so, but I just feel like, the more I'm looking back now, I realize, oh, it's all been directed like I wrote the script, but they're like everything obviously, to this moment that we're speaking Deanna. It's like that where I'm like, oh, it's all directed. And I'm, you know, I'm certainly here to help. And I kind of put out to him, like, Hey, you bring it and I'll do it. That's kind of what I'm saying. I'm like, if you're bringing it, I'll do your bidding. Because I know it's a benevolent energy that's coming through, but it's, it definitely is something that I talked to now, at this point, I didn't used to, wow, yeah, like, that much stuff coming where, when it happened again the other day, at such a level that it happened, I was kind of spooked for a couple hours after that one, where I was like, I mean, spooked in a good way, but still, Like, okay, I don't get to lie about this anymore. I don't get to deny or try to talk this one away. This is, this is getting very tangible.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, and I think it's going to keep getting more and more tangible, don't you? Like, I think we're sure this phase of our reality where they're here and we're going to start seeing them and feeling them and knowing them in a different way. So one of my invitations, you know, for the audience, even for you, is to continue building relationship with that aspect, that entity, that council. You know, the more that we build those relationships, I really feel like the more information can be transmitted through us. You know, we are turbo transmitters, right? And so it's recognizing that we have the ability to do that. And and for those of us that are being called or summoned, or whatever you want to call it, you know, we can choose to say no, but it's so much more fun to say yes. I think, like, aren't you having fun? Don't you feel like, in a way you're on fire, like you can feel the momentum, yeah, coming from a place of love and truth. And this is kind of circling back to what I was trying to get at when I got distracted by my my praying mantis galactic story. But it is understanding that when we are coming from a place of love and truth, everything conspires to ensure that message is revealed, that that that whatever needs to happen from that place gets the exposure that it needs to without us needing to try, right?

Yeah, I think it's really kind of your, you know, you write the script and you manifest today what starts to begin tomorrow. And I really think that we the more I'm into this passage. You know, that is a life and an avatar, but I came from love, and I'll be love after the avatar dies, yeah, the more I kind of sit with it, the more I realize like, Oh, wow. I not only am a multi dimensional being, but I literally have the manifest power to adjust the next few moments and the next few days and to change my passage to be anything that I desire it to be, because I'm writing the script, I mean, as love, right? So it's pretty wild to think that, you know, everybody gets to write their own script, and it's a function of manifesting it, and then starting to understand that you can believe in yourself and all all things, if you're kind of stepping out with the heart. It's kind of crazy how powerful each of us is.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yes, yeah. I, you know, I think this is, yeah, it's very potent. Let's put it that way. And and so, you know, all this being said, you know, obviously you have a passion to reveal the truth and to express these messages. And so you do some speaking as well, obviously doing podcast tours. I'm curious to know. Know you know about some other facets of your work and what you really want to do in terms of your mission. So what do you help people with? You know, aside from writing these incredible books and opening all of this up, I'm just curious to know what those other pieces look like.

You mean, like, what my passion is outside of writing?

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, like, well, I'm curious to know, you know, how, like, if someone says, Oh, my God, I love your book. What else is there? Like, can you teach me something? Can you show me something, RAM that I get to be part of?

Oh, you know, I, I think kind of the, the main thing that's in the book is more about, you know, the book reveals, kind of our rough, covert history, which deals with some dark topics. But I think overall, the feeling that I mean when you you know the reviews are coming in that people, and I'll certainly get phone calls and emails to where people will say, you know, that's an insanely rough, dark story, but it leaves you feeling hopeful. And the reality is, I believe you really can't step forward until you kind of know your accurate past, whether it's dark or not, and whether it's continuing to be dark. And in the realms of our current state that we're in, there's a lot of stuff that's not of light, but I will say that it's a very bright future that's coming. I do believe we're being welcomed to the galactic community this year. I believe the planet is going to know that we're absolutely not alone, and it will be revealed in a bunch of different ways, but it's coming very rapidly, and it's a super exciting future, but it's it's also going to get a little rough here in the next few months, as the malevolent groups that are currently in control of the planet are having to depart, they're going to make some last gasp attempts to hold control. So I'm just saying, you know, if you're asking about what would my message be beyond the book, it would be, stand by, step forward with your heart, not your head. Let this be the decoder of your heart. You step ahead with your heart. It will naturally make you not look outward towards CNN or all the reels that are violent and all of the stuff that's going on to pull you away from your superpower, yeah, because it's this thing that if we all step forward with our heart when the critical mass reaches what it's about to anyway, the planet Sophia, I call her. Some people call her Gaia. They the planet as she is shifting raising to the fourth frequency. We're being taken along, kind of like her cubs inexorably taken

with her, because she's just done with the control. And so I think what you're going to see is this amazing reveal that we are in the galactic community. It will be, no doubt about it, it will be global, and that so much is coming that's amazing, but it will get a little chaotic, slightly violent, before it resolves. But just step ahead with your heart, you'll be fine. There's absolutely nothing to fear.

Rev. Rose Hope: I think that's a really powerful message, because we live in a world that's inundated with fear, fear, fear, fear. And I think that's, you know, something we need to really keep in mind. So thank you for that. I'm curious to know. I feel like there's more that needs to be shared here, and so I want to just dig in a little bit to, you know, the process of, like, revealing truth, and what that was for you. You know, I know there's a lot of people that are holding a lot of stuff inside, I know. And I think back to, like, my grandparents generation and like, you didn't tell anyone anything. My mom went to school with her half brother and didn't know it was her brother until they were well into adulthood. Because you didn't share stories, right? Hush, hush. So what would you suggest for people that are like, I want to be truthful and I want to be authentically me, because that vibration of authenticity we know is the highest vibration of love, right? And so, you know, how do we start to be courageous, and how do we be these truth showers?

That's a good question. The way I have switched over. I mean, I'm a complete skeptic by nature. I am not, you know, 20 years ago, if you said anything about aliens, I would just look at you sideways, like, bro, you're out of your mind. Yep, but, but obviously that's a change that's changed for me through my research. Or really, there's just volumes of information throughout our history, and currently, even more, because of the internet, of the amount of alien interaction and alien traded technologies that are all around us that it was just it became quickly apparent to me like, Oh, I've been hoodwinked. But having said that, what's hard for me is like. What's been hard for you, Dan is the idea of expressing that there are ETS around us, within the planet, off the planet, and it's about to kind of explode into we're all going to be welcomed in the galactic community. Now, a lot of my friends will just turn sideways and go, yeah, right, bro, love you, but you're nuts. But what I've learned is, if I'm if I get out of my head where the ego is, right? Because when I start to say it, I go, Okay, what am I afraid to say here? I'm afraid of being judged. Yeah? So then I go, Well, let's look at that fear. Where's that coming from that's not coming from my heart, that's coming from my head, of wanting to be the perfect person, which nobody gets to be. So what I would say to folks is, if they're sensing they're kind of isolated and they're too afraid to talk about their truth, I'd say once again, you know, take your five minutes in the morning after breakfast, Turn all your technology off, like your little piece of sage, and just start with opening with your heart and allow the brain to decode just your heart. Don't, don't try to quiet the brain. It'll spin forever, and it wants you to go to CNN. It wants you to go try to solve it by thinking it through. And it doesn't work. And I tried to do that for years, and that'll drive you crazy. Yeah, and I'll tell anyone

out there I have the fastest monkey mind there is. So if you think that you're stuck because you have monkey mind that's way too progressive and too fast, and you can never slow down your brain. I'm saying, Yeah, you're right. You probably can't and I'm saying stop. I'm saying, start with a different foundation. Open your heart. It'll be quiet, and just let your brain kind of interpret what's coming out of your heart and what's wild is literally, I'm only saying five minutes a day, folks, we're all on the toilet for five minutes a day. Let's just call it what it is, all right. So take your five minutes and defend that space. Nobody gets to talk to you. There's no phone calls. There's no technology. You find your little corner and you defend that each day. I'm just telling you, molecular changes began occurring immediately, and that's what I that's what I do, and I recommend it. There's a space that you will find, as Rumi says, All humans have a state of awareness that is prior to the universe and the source of it.

Rev. Rose Hope: Love Rumi. I'm going to add one to that, because Eckhart Tolle says that we're all addicted to overthinking. And most people, when that wouldn't be the first thing that you come to your mind, like, what are you addicted to? Right? And so we've been so conditioned again, to spin on the hamster wheel. Because if we're spinning on the hamster wheel, we're not near as productive and not doing all the things right. You know, it keeps us distracted from divine, that divine, the divinity within us, right, whatever that might be perceived as. So I love that, and I love that you're honest about the fact that, like we're human beings, we got stuff going on. But you know what? If you're on the toilet, you know, that's so much time that you have that you can be using as sacred time, right? It's like, now we flip a switch, it's like, oh, that's sacred time for me, where I have no distractions. Yes, you know, I think well and brilliant, you know? Because I think again, we get so caught up in all these excuses, because we're always moving. You know, we're always doing. So I think it's a beautiful practice of being as well.

And I'm not recommending, per se, the toilet. Dan, just to I'm saying, I'm saying, Look, we're all on the toilet for five minutes. If you can do that for five minutes a day, okay, you can definitely create a window of five now, I'm saying the toilet is also available, if that's your thing. I'm just saying that I try to light my I mean, I might need to light my sage after the toilet too. But I'm just saying that I try to find a separate little corner breakfast nook, you know. And I but, but I'm open to both. And sometimes both happen, and sometimes it happens in the car now. And all I'm saying to everyone, yeah, I will guarantee you, when you start to tap into what you are multi dimensionally, yes, and we are revered by ET races. Humans are revered by ET races. Think about this, not because of our technology, because these races are far beyond that. They'll essentially say, no, no, no. What you need to understand is, it's what you as only humans bring this multi dimensional thing that when you step into what you are, you are far beyond all. E. Races we will eventually, I'm pretty convinced humanity will eventually administer the entire multiverse, because we were created out of the best of 28 elite ET races that were benevolent. We're kind of a beaker. Experiment is coming to fruition right now, but literally, the juice that we've had that we've been told that we don't have for all of our lives, right when we step into that, I'm telling you, if you do your five minutes a day, you're going to have molecular changes that are going to make you question everything outside of you, and you're going to want to go inside more to see the magic that you are. Yes.

Rev. Rose Hope: Oh, it's so good. I've had goosebumps a few times in this conversation, and I was one of them. So, yeah, so so good. And thanks for clarifying about the clarifying about the toilet. You know, that was a good laugh, and I think it's a good reminder. Did just that we can weave that in, that there doesn't have to be any excuses. You know, I, I often talk about weaving spirituality and recognizing that spirituality is not separate from my existence. It is my existence, and

it can happen on the toilet, right? For sure, it can happen anywhere. It's all. It has nothing to do with the body, so to speak. So, you know, beyond it's kind of out of body.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, right. Yeah, it is. I am so fascinated. I cannot wait to go and get your book. Now. I'm so tickled pink, and I'm so excited about the second book as well. Already, you are, you know, one of the few humans on this planet that has, you know, the heart of the courageous soul. And, you know, recognizing and witnessing you as a light worker in this world, I thank you for doing the work that you continue to do, and to reveal the truth to the world and create beautiful things. Now I want to also go on Showtime, and I want to go check out crime like I need to go check these out. Now I'm really excited about that. And you know, as we kind of come to a close again, I feel like we could, you know, go off many offshoots, off this, this conversation. But is there anything that you really feel like it's important for people to know aside from what you've already shared, is there anything else that comes to mind that that you feel, that you need to express before we wrap things up for today?

I think I've pretty much covered I you know, I want to reiterate just, you know, it's been an honor to be on your show, DeeAnne, really fun to hang out and you ask really poignant questions. And I think I'm sure that's why you've got your listenership as they're enjoying what they're getting out of the show. And you know, to reiterate that we have a super bright future ahead for all of us, and that if you step into your heart, your heart kind of if you step forward with that in the coming months, as things get chaotic, there's literally nothing to fear.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yes, nothing to fear. Do you hear that everybody I know, easier said than done, when it's in our faces all the time, but, you know, I think we need the reminder, right? You know, as we fall into the old defaults and the old traps, you know. So thank you. Thank you for reminding us that we are creating heaven on earth, because that's really what's coming. I really, truly believe that that that is, you know, part of the arrival of that experience for us, and also witnessing that it is available already to us, for those of us that are ready for that. But thank you. Thank you for taking the time to share and to expand us and our aperture for what is really possible out there, and to open ourselves up to some other possibilities that maybe we haven't considered before. So MD, where can we find your book? Where do we go? What's in store for a connector?

So they can, they can go to mdselig.com, there's a bunch of links there. Obviously, Amazon, the audible is available. Is where as well. And I read that it's, that's a 22 hour book. So you have a lot of running, or whatever you do, gardening you can do to listen to the book. It's a 600 page novel, but, but you can also go, I have to remember these ins, these social media things. Lincoln reminds me it's called, so this is the Instagram one. I think it's at real dot MDC League, and a bunch of links are there. I believe that's the Instagram one, but yeah, all those. There's tons of videos and stuff on the Patreon page as well, as far as first contact stuff. So take a look, and I think you can have fun with the read and certainly leave us a review so that the algorithm rises on Amazon, that message gets out to a little more people. That helps?

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, we want it. We want to help you get that out there. And folks, all of that information will be in the show notes, so you don't have to remember any of that. It's going to be in the show notes. You can just click on the links below this podcast. Andy, this has been a real treat. I I'm going to be picking your brain even more. I feel like there's, I think there's, there's more to discover here. And yeah, really looking forward to reading these beautiful books that you're working on. So thank you so very much. And for all of you listening, thanks for tuning in. And who knows, maybe some galactic beings are calling your spirit right now. And so an invitation for you to continue exploring everyone. Thanks for tuning in, and until next time, be well. Bye for now.

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